Should we be drafting Tua???

[Number44]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

This is from cbssports.com most recent mock draft. I feel a little naughty for posting this.

NFL MOCK DRAFT ROUND 1

Round 1 - Pick 1

Joe Burrow QB
LSU • SR • 6'4" / 221 LBS
PROJECTED TEAM
Cincinnati
PROSPECT RNK
2nd
POSITION RNK
1st
Joe Burrow silenced any concerns that he would refuse to play for Cincinnati. It was the only obstacle remaining before the two parties came together.

Round 1 - Pick 2

Tua Tagovailoa QB
ALABAMA • JR • 6'0" / 217 LBS
PROJECTED TEAM
Washington
PROSPECT RNK
3rd
POSITION RNK
1st

If the NFL Draft were a straight forward venture then there would be no need for mock drafts. A year ago, the Cardinals selected Kyler Murray one year after drafting Josh Rosen in the top 10. If Washington comes to the conclusion that Tagovailoa is a better long-term option than Dwayne Haskins, why would they not take him and then deal Haskins for additional draft capital?

I think that perhaps some of us are forgetting about Young in the equation. It isn't a comparison of Haskins vs. Tua. It is a comparison of Haskins plus Young vs. Tua. If you think Haskins is so valuable that he could be traded for top draft picks, then all the more reason to keep him and draft Young. I'm a huge Tua fan, but we are talking about Haskins plus one of the top graded players of all time in Young. I really think RR looks at it this way as well.

[skinsfaninok]

I want Young, he's the best player in this class and typically those guys pan out to be stars. Look at recent years.

Barkley - Stud
Q Nelson - Best OL in football
Myles Garrett - Stud

Draft Chase Young

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I want Young, he's the best player in this class and typically those guys pan out to be stars. Look at recent years.

Barkley - Stud
Q Nelson - Best OL in football
Myles Garrett - Stud

Draft Chase Young

Nelson and Garrett right now have no chance cause their QB's are not good enough.

[Warthog]

Haskins had two smoking hot games to finish out his seven-game season. They weren’t just “good” games - they showed his ability to play at an elite level in the NFL.

No one knows whether his last two games will translate in a long-term franchise QB. But he showed CONSTANT improvement the whole season. Both his last two games were OVER 120 QB rating exhibitions of his improving talent.

Haskin’s improved DESPITE a shaky OL, poor TEs, three rookie WR and a totally archaic offensive philosophy pushed by Callahan.

If Haskins did not improve - even with a 7-game sample, then I could see the angst about him. But he DID get better and he reached an OUTSTANDING level in just his sixth game. So why all the internet articles about taking Tua now and dumping Haskins? How good did he have to get to in his sixth game - a perfect game??




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[rocnrik]

Tua will be a monster in the league .. Franchise QB ..Best QB Washington has had maybe forever!! ... hmmm does that sound over the top .. yep but it also sounds exactly like what some are saying about Young.. who is right ?? Maybe nobody however there is NO debate of what the most important position in football is .. QB ! and that’s why we must seriously look at TUA .

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Tua will be a monster in the league .. Franchise QB ..Best QB Washington has had maybe forever!! ... hmmm does that sound over the top .. yep but it also sounds exactly like what some are saying about Young.. who is right ?? Maybe nobody however there is NO debate of what the most important position in football is .. QB ! and that’s why we must seriously look at TUA .

I think Tua is going to be a franchise QB. But Haskins showed in his last games that he could be elite also. If Haskins had shown no growth in his rookie season, or if he totally sucked at the end of the season, then I could see the possibility of considering doing what the Cardinals did with a QB replacement draft choice. The Cardinals looked at Josh Rosens’ rookie season and thought he might be a draft bust. He didn’t grow, he didn’t improve, looked lousy his first year. They took the chance to replace him, traded him and replaced him with Murray. They made the right choice.

But Haskins got better every game his rookie season. He played hurt and showed his toughness and grit. He showed leadership. The last two games were played at an ELITE level AS A ROOKIE. What more do people want?


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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think Tua is going to be a franchise QB. But Haskins showed in his last games that he could be elite also. If Haskins had shown no growth in his rookie season, or if he totally sucked at the end of the season, then I could see the possibility of considering doing what the Cardinals did with a QB replacement draft choice. The Cardinals looked at Josh Rosens’ rookie season and thought he might be a draft bust. He didn’t grow, he didn’t improve, looked lousy his first year. They took the chance to replace him, traded him and replaced him with Murray. They made the right choice.

But Haskins got better every game his rookie season. He played hurt and showed his toughness and grit. He showed leadership. The last two games were played at an ELITE level AS A ROOKIE. What more do people want?


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I think Haskins is a Good Young QB and can be a franchise QB and showed some good growth and will get better but seriously to call him "Elite" after last season ,no .

[ArizonaSkinFan]

The questions on Haskins aren't on talent. Its if these rumors of lack of work ethic and a learning disability are true

If either are true and can't be fixed then we should consider drafting Tua. If these rumors are crap stay the course with Haskins

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I think Haskins is a Good Young QB and can be a franchise QB and showed some good growth and will get better but seriously to call him "Elite" after last season ,no .

If you actually read my post I never called Haskins elite. What I said was that his last two games had elite numbers. He had a QB rating of 120 and 141 in his last two games.

What I said was that he had a terrible first game, but improved steadily every game. He had two outstanding last two games.

I don’t know if Haskjns will be a franchise QB. But he was getting better every game and that’s all you can expect with an inexperienced rookie. I’m excited to see how he will do in his second season.


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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Warthog

If you actually read my post I never called Haskins elite. What I said was that his last two games had elite numbers. He had a QB rating of 120 and 141 in his last two games.

What I said was that he had a terrible first game, but improved steadily every game. He had two outstanding last two games.

I don’t know if Haskjns will be a franchise QB. But he was getting better every game and that’s all you can expect with an inexperienced rookie. I’m excited to see how he will do in his second season.


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I read it and you used the word twice.in describing Haskins. I like the kid and he has potential but you were wrong to describe him as elite after this year, as for Haskins I'm not saying one bad word about him but no player is elite after two games in his rookie season.


Warthog said.....
"I think Tua is going to be a franchise QB. But Haskins showed in his last games that he could be elite also. If Haskins had shown no growth in his rookie season, or if he totally sucked at the end of the season, then I could see the possibility of considering doing what the Cardinals did with a QB replacement draft choice. The Cardinals looked at Josh Rosens’ rookie season and thought he might be a draft bust. He didn’t grow, he didn’t improve, looked lousy his first year. They took the chance to replace him, traded him and replaced him with Murray. They made the right choice.

But Haskins got better every game his rookie season. He played hurt and showed his toughness and grit. He showed leadership. The last two games were played at an ELITE level AS A ROOKIE. What more do people want?"

[skinsfanmdc]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Tua will be a monster in the league .. Franchise QB ..Best QB Washington has had maybe forever!! ... hmmm does that sound over the top .. yep but it also sounds exactly like what some are saying about Young.. who is right ?? Maybe nobody however there is NO debate of what the most important position in football is .. QB ! and that’s why we must seriously look at TUA .

Sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQHpBDzMRzk

[rocnrik]

Exactly!! Good watch!

[MTK]

He doesn’t have a learning disability, Rivera and Kyle Smith both have praised his work ethic in the past week


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[skinsfaninok]

It all boils down to RR and Smith, if they feel that Tua will fir the new scheme / regime better than they need to take him. If they believe in DH, draft Chase.

[skinsfanmdc]

Theisman is on board with Skipping Tua. That's Casserly, Theisman and others.

https://247sports.com/Article/Redski...orts-144405976