Post draft breakdown

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Scalper

2021 Draft Grade - B-

Let's suppose Smith was GM. He would have told entire scouting staff, there are hundreds of QBs in North America entering the draft or exiting college this year. Somewhere right now, there is one QB with upside. I don't care if he's playing in a bush league on the backside of the moon or Mars, find him.

I think you are so off with almost all of your analysis with this draft, I don't even know where to begin. I'll just take this point.

So you want your GM to tell your entire scouting staff to move heaven and earth trying to find the QB of the future - and essentially force the pick of a QB, "some QB with upside" ... and that is a long term approach? No. That is wasting scouts' precious time at the expense of improving the other 95% of the roster, and likely a waste of a pick.

I'm sure they scouted QBs, but I'm glad that's not the only position they scouted, and they didn't just draft one to draft one.

RR and company have said it a million times, about taking a measured approach, not forcing anything, not mortgaging the future, etc. They have proven that through free agency, and I see nothing that changed that with this draft.

Did they draft needs? Of course they did. Every team did. That's why when it's a team's turn to draft, the analysts talk about what that team NEEDS, not who is their best player on the board.

For me, it's just nice to have grown men in charge for a change.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think you are so off with almost all of your analysis with this draft, I don't even know where to begin. I'll just take this point.



So you want your GM to tell your entire scouting staff to move heaven and earth trying to find the QB of the future - and essentially force the pick of a QB, "some QB with upside" ... and that is a long term approach? No. That is wasting scouts' precious time at the expense of improving the other 95% of the roster, and likely a waste of a pick.



I'm sure they scouted QBs, but I'm glad that's not the only position they scouted, and they didn't just draft one to draft one.



RR and company have said it a million times, about taking a measured approach, not forcing anything, not mortgaging the future, etc. They have proven that through free agency, and I see nothing that changed that with this draft.



Did they draft needs? Of course they did. Every team did. That's why when it's a team's turn to draft, the analysts talk about what that team NEEDS, not who is their best player on the board.



For me, it's just nice to have grown men in charge for a change.

Well said!

Funny thing is Atlanta (where Smith went) also didnt draft a qb.

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[Scalper]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well said!

Funny thing is Atlanta (where Smith went) also didnt draft a qb.

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They have Matt Ryan, LOL.
Not an apples to apples, or even apples to oranges, more like apple to cactus.
Behind Ryan they have veteran backup and then signed Franks as a UDFA, as a developmental prospect.
Matt Ryan isn't Montana, but he's been a solid starter and led his team to SB and multiple playoff appearances.
We don't have anything even approaching Matt Ryan, but didn't sign a developmental prospect.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think you are so off with almost all of your analysis with this draft, I don't even know where to begin. I'll just take this point.

So you want your GM to tell your entire scouting staff to move heaven and earth trying to find the QB of the future - and essentially force the pick of a QB, "some QB with upside" ... and that is a long term approach? No. That is wasting scouts' precious time at the expense of improving the other 95% of the roster, and likely a waste of a pick.

I'm sure they scouted QBs, but I'm glad that's not the only position they scouted, and they didn't just draft one to draft one.

RR and company have said it a million times, about taking a measured approach, not forcing anything, not mortgaging the future, etc. They have proven that through free agency, and I see nothing that changed that with this draft.

Did they draft needs? Of course they did. Every team did. That's why when it's a team's turn to draft, the analysts talk about what that team NEEDS, not who is their best player on the board.

For me, it's just nice to have grown men in charge for a change.

A good FO can find one QB they like somewhere in draft in any given year. We didn't because RR wants Allen. Period. You can draft one QB instead of a LS or 10th WR and still have a measured approach. Not drafting a QB was unacceptable, in at least late rounds.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think you are so off with almost all of your analysis with this draft, I don't even know where to begin. I'll just take this point.

So you want your GM to tell your entire scouting staff to move heaven and earth trying to find the QB of the future - and essentially force the pick of a QB, "some QB with upside" ... and that is a long term approach? No. That is wasting scouts' precious time at the expense of improving the other 95% of the roster, and likely a waste of a pick.

I'm sure they scouted QBs, but I'm glad that's not the only position they scouted, and they didn't just draft one to draft one.

RR and company have said it a million times, about taking a measured approach, not forcing anything, not mortgaging the future, etc. They have proven that through free agency, and I see nothing that changed that with this draft.

Did they draft needs? Of course they did. Every team did. That's why when it's a team's turn to draft, the analysts talk about what that team NEEDS, not who is their best player on the board.

For me, it's just nice to have grown men in charge for a change.

Concur on grown men, and its okay to disagree, LOL.
In the end, only time will tell, and I hope every pick is a HOFer, LOL.

[mooby]

Every year it seems like the same shit. People bitching about draft picks, or where they were taken, or why someone didn't do their research.

My only question is if your talent evaluation skills are better than theirs, why are you online complaining on a forum instead of getting paid to tell coaches your opinion.

3 years from now if any of these players turn into quality pros nobody will give two shits about where they were drafted or what price was paid.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by mooby

Every year it seems like the same shit. People bitching about draft picks, or where they were taken, or why someone didn't do their research.

My only question is if your talent evaluation skills are better than theirs, why are you online complaining on a forum instead of getting paid to tell coaches your opinion.

3 years from now if any of these players turn into quality pros nobody will give two shits about where they were drafted or what price was paid.

Agreed. I guess they'd rather rant and play online GM. I don't know why those types believe their opinion, and analysis has been validated by anyone other than themselves.

[KI Skins Fan]

According to CBS Sports, JOK was diagnosed with a heart condition which caused him to fall on some draft boards.

[CRedskinsRule]

I love the concept that trading a 5th round pick is mortgaging our future. Particularly when one of the two resulting picks likely will be on the team for 8-10 years if NFL position history holds true.

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[Scalper]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I love the concept that trading a 5th round pick is mortgaging our future. Particularly when one of the two resulting picks likely will be on the team for 8-10 years if NFL position history holds true.

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Mortgaging picks at a lesser level than shipping off #1s is still mortgaging the future. The principle still holds, and you can sign a LS off the street. Doesn't make our draft an F, but still not a smart long term move.

[Chico23231]

Mortgaging the future would have been trading multiple 1s to trade up to draft a QB.

I see a roster with 3 capable guys at QB and a better team now after Saturday.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Hatters gonna hat. Listening to Sheehan said NFL people he talked to said none of the late round QBs graded out as high as Wilson or Cousins. Cooley also graded out Trask, Mond and Mills and said none are worth more than a 5th but you would have to draft in the third. Kinda called that. I just don't see drafting a QB for the sake of drafting a QB.

[MTK]

Already seeing chatter that Vikings fans think Mond could start over Cousins?! Get the F outta here, so dumb

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Already seeing chatter that Vikings fans think Mond could start over Cousins?! Get the F outta here, so dumb

Mond is terrible

Did you see/hear RG3 comments about Cousins/Mond QB situation? RG3 is a troll now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Mond is terrible

Did you see/hear RG3 comments about Cousins/Mond QB situation? RG3 is a troll now.

Bobby is a joke