My 1st anti-coaching thread

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by davy

I thought this site was for knowledgeable fans not for bad losers.

All opinions are welcome. However, when posts become big and egregious personal attacks, we delete the posts and "observe" the offending poster. People can be disappointed and vent their disappointment. Only when it "crosses the line" do we mods take action.

See, Brunell2Moss.

[jrocx69]

Originally Posted by davy

I thought this site was for knowledgeable fans not for bad losers.

those are words of a genius... to bad we dont have many davy

[davy]

I wasn't referring to your post in particular, I'm just tired of all the knee jerk reactions every time we lose a game. Today's loss was not about play calling it was about execution. Their guys made plays when they had to, ours didn't.

[Bushead]

It does start at the Lines. If you have dominant lines, you can do anything you want. Just looking at the Offensive line though, what could be the problem? I think pass protection has been wonderful, but of course Gibbs has extra blockers everywhere making it hard to judge.

[Bushead]

snyder is an intersting fellow

[Bushead]

How would another Wideout help Run Blocking?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Bushead

How would another Wideout help Run Blocking?

Because our passing game would be better and defenses wouldn't be stacking the box (as the Chargers did today).

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've been one that's preached 'trust the coaches' all season and that I trusted Gibbs judgment explicitly but today's loss and the last month in general I think it's time to really question some things..

Playcalling-Terrible decisions on offense with the plays.. Too many conservative playcalls. It seems like there are like 8 total plays in the playbook. When I can sit on my couch in Miami and call the plays before they happen an NFL coach can surely predict the same. Too conservative, playing not to lose=losing football. I'm convinced that this coaching staff is not the right group to get us back to the top. We have better offensive talent than teams scoring 24-31 pts a week but we are not getting it done. That's flat out coaching and execution but it all starts on the sidelines.

Defensive playcalling-Same thing, why did we stop blitzing? 3 & 4 man rushes against an offensive line that was allowing pressure all day when the blitz came? Other than Harris the DBs played exceptionally well for most of the game, why not let them give them a chance to make a play?

Roster decisions-Derrick Frost is awful, worst punter in the league.. Walt Harris has been terrible since October, why is he still playing?? WR depth was a problem coming out of training camp but how can we not have a WR on the practice squad instead of Jimmy Farris who was out of football last week and the #3 WR this week?

Very frustrated and with no #1 pick and up against the cap this offseason I can't say that I'm even looking forward to that anymore..

AMEN

[MTK]

I think it's so easy to whine and say it's the playcalling, but the execution hasn't been up to par lately either. Dropped passes, penalties, turnovers, etc., that's all on the players.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's so easy to whine and say it's the playcalling, but the execution hasn't been up to par lately either. Dropped passes, penalties, turnovers, etc., that's all on the players.

Matty, you know I have been right there with you with the 'trust the coaches' mantra, but the playcalling the past 3 games especially has been terrible.. Execution has been bad, no doubt, but the predictability of the play calls has nothing to do with execution. The conservatism has nothing to do with execution.. IMO to be better than 8-8 in todays NFL you need to either score 24+ a game or give up less than 13 a game. We are nowhere near either of those benchmarks which is why we are constantly fighting ourselves for a win..

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Matty, you know I have been right there with you with the 'trust the coaches' mantra, but the playcalling the past 3 games especially has been terrible.. Execution has been bad, no doubt, but the predictability of the play calls has nothing to do with execution. The conservatism has nothing to do with execution.. IMO to be better than 8-8 in todays NFL you need to either score 24+ a game or give up less than 13 a game. We are nowhere near either of those benchmarks which is why we are constantly fighting ourselves for a win..

Ever since Moss made the headlines, the deep ball has been taken away via double-coverage. I don't think we are good enough to successfully use trick plays. I'm not sure what the coaching staff is doing that is so conservative. I think it's smart playcalling (i.e. our last "drive" against the Chargers). I think the execution and talent (see our #2 wideout and #1 tight-end) just isn't there.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Ever since Moss made the headlines, the deep ball has been taken away via double-coverage. I don't think we are good enough to successfully use trick plays. I'm not sure what the coaching staff is doing that is so conservative. I think it's smart playcalling (i.e. our last "drive" against the Chargers). I think the execution and talent (see our #2 wideout and #1 tight-end) just isn't there.

From the 'Playcalling' Thread that I just posted in:

1-10-SD31 (1:04) C.Portis to SD 25 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Florence).
2-4-SD25 (:55) C.Portis right end to SD 25 for no gain (L.Castillo).
PENALTY on WAS-C.Rabach, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SD 25 - No Play.
2-14-SD35 (:50) C.Portis left end to SD 35 for no gain (R.Godfrey).
3-14-SD35 (:40) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley (S.Merriman).
4-14-SD35 (:35) J.Hall 52 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost.

From the 35 you are out of FG range. The highlighted playcall on 2nd and 14 is asinine to me. To me that is giving up on the drive by conceding 3rd and long and a long FG attempt. Are there no plays in the playbook designed to gain 7-10 yds?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

From the 'Playcalling' Thread that I just posted in:

1-10-SD31 (1:04) C.Portis to SD 25 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Florence).
2-4-SD25 (:55) C.Portis right end to SD 25 for no gain (L.Castillo).
PENALTY on WAS-C.Rabach, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SD 25 - No Play.
2-14-SD35 (:50) C.Portis left end to SD 35 for no gain (R.Godfrey).
3-14-SD35 (:40) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley (S.Merriman).
4-14-SD35 (:35) J.Hall 52 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost.

From the 35 you are out of FG range. The highlighted playcall on 2nd and 14 is asinine to me. To me that is giving up on the drive by conceding 3rd and long and a long FG attempt. Are there no plays in the playbook designed to gain 7-10 yds?

If I remember right, that play was a delayed handoff. Basically to freeze the defense into thinking it was pass then run. But the Chargers didn't bite

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

From the 'Playcalling' Thread that I just posted in:

1-10-SD31 (1:04) C.Portis to SD 25 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Florence).
2-4-SD25 (:55) C.Portis right end to SD 25 for no gain (L.Castillo).
PENALTY on WAS-C.Rabach, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SD 25 - No Play.
2-14-SD35 (:50) C.Portis left end to SD 35 for no gain (R.Godfrey).
3-14-SD35 (:40) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley (S.Merriman).
4-14-SD35 (:35) J.Hall 52 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost.

From the 35 you are out of FG range. The highlighted playcall on 2nd and 14 is asinine to me. To me that is giving up on the drive by conceding 3rd and long and a long FG attempt. Are there no plays in the playbook designed to gain 7-10 yds?

While I agree that the playcalling has generally been unimaginative and predictable, weren't a lot of us bitching last week in the 4th quarter against the Raiders for NOT running Portis enough?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's so easy to whine and say it's the playcalling, but the execution hasn't been up to par lately either. Dropped passes, penalties, turnovers, etc., that's all on the players.

While there has been far too much of what you mention, playcalling figures into the mix as well. There is far too much of what we saw last year, throwing the ball two to three yards short of the first down marker. I wouldn't suggest throwing a hook pattern two yards short of the 1st down with the receiver not being able to run after the catch for the needed yardage. Plus the whole offensive scheme at times lacks creativeness as well as imagination. It appears to be an offense with limited plays because we seem to be so predictable, and from what I witness rather easy to defend.