Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

You're joking right???? Wow. I think Beck can be better then Jason Campbell. No one is tanking anything. I said this before and ill say it again......ANDREW LUCK IS NOT GOD!!!!!!!! He's a great college qb. You never know how he will pan out. I bet Sam Braford has a better NFL career then Luck. I'm 100% behind Beck. He is an unknown and could surprise.

I hope he does surprise us but I just don't see how Shanahan and co. can sit there with a straight face and give this guy the job.

[scowan]

They are not tanking the season. Look, there are only a few Manning's and Brady's and Brees's out there... the rest of the NFL has to go with "other guys" to captain and QB their team. There are a lot of worse QB situations on other teams than the Redskins. How would you like to be the 49ers or the Cardinals or the Titans or the Raiders.

If Beck plays within the system, something McNabb couldn't do and makes fewer mistakes than Grossman (i.e. TD/INT ratio) and the Defense is not 31st in the league this coming year, then maybe these Skins win 9 games with Beck at QB. I'm mean, was Schaub a stud before he came to the Texans?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by scowan

They are not tanking the season. Look, there are only a few Manning's and Brady's and Brees's out there... the rest of the NFL has to go with "other guys" to captain and QB their team. There are a lot of worse QB situations on other teams than the Redskins. How would you like to be the 49ers or the Cardinals or the Titans or the Raiders.

If Beck plays within the system, something McNabb couldn't do and makes fewer mistakes than Grossman (i.e. TD/INT ratio) and the Defense is not 31st in the league this coming year, then maybe these Skins win 9 games with Beck at QB. I'm mean, was Schaub a stud before he came to the Texans?

what are you talking about? rivers, vick, ben, romo, ryan and even josh freeman are not "other guys." jason campbell is a better qb than john freakin beck. the guy got traded from balt. for some guy named doug dutch. the ravens have a legit front office and if they thought he could play then they would've kept him cause bulger is probably outta there.

we're not winning 9 games in the nfc east with john beck. give me a break.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

what are you talking about? rivers, vick, ben, romo, ryan and even josh freeman are not "other guys." jason campbell is a better qb than john freakin beck. the guy got traded from balt. for some guy named doug dutch. the ravens have a legit front office and if they thought he could play then they would've kept him cause bulger is probably outta there.

we're not winning 9 games in the nfc east with john beck. give me a break.

Hilarious!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by diehard

Hilarious!

so you think we're going to win 9 games w/ our qb situation? if you do then i think you're hilarious!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

what are you talking about? rivers, vick, ben, romo, ryan and even josh freeman are not "other guys." jason campbell is a better qb than john freakin beck. the guy got traded from balt. for some guy named doug dutch. the ravens have a legit front office and if they thought he could play then they would've kept him cause bulger is probably outta there.

we're not winning 9 games in the nfc east with john beck. give me a break.

Well the Ravens traded a first and a second for Boller. And they seemed to have been wrong about him. So maybe they were wrong about Beck.

Personally, I still don't see what the hype is about Beck but maybe he's improved over the past year

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Personally, I still don't see what the hype is about Beck but maybe he's improved over the past year

I see far more people adamant that Beck can't play then people hyping him.

I don't see believing that Beck has a chance to be a viable option at QB is hype.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I see far more people adamant that Beck can't play then people hyping him.

I don't see believing that Beck has a chance to be a viable option at QB is hype.

Maybe hype was a bit of a hyperbolic word to use there...he's no Chase Daniel though. There I said it

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

what are you talking about? rivers, vick, ben, romo, ryan and even josh freeman are not "other guys." jason campbell is a better qb than john freakin beck. the guy got traded from balt. for some guy named doug dutch. the ravens have a legit front office and if they thought he could play then they would've kept him cause bulger is probably outta there.

we're not winning 9 games in the nfc east with john beck. give me a break.

I don't believe for a second that Shanahan would tank the season. Nevertheless, I can see how you might think that Shanahan must be trying to lose if he's planning to use Beck as his starting QB.

[Longtimefan]

Beck had no chance in Baltimore with Joe Flacco. He's maintained he wanted to be in a position where he could eventually become a starting QB again. That was not going to happen there so he probably talked his way out.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Beck had no chance in Baltimore with Joe Flacco. He's maintained he wanted to be in a position where he could eventually become a starting QB again. That was not going to happen there so he probably talked his way out.

No kidding but if he had any ability don't you think they would've held on to him as a back up?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No kidding but if he had any ability don't you think they would've held on to him as a back up?

Beck went to the Ravens mid-training camp. He was behind Troy Smith who was gonna be the starter and behind Joe Flacco the QB of the future both of which were selected by the Ravens front office.
Then they had the chance to get a proven starter like Mark Bulger.
Beck was the odd man out caught in a numbers game.

It doesn't mean he can or can't play just that he wasn't in a situation where he was gonna get a real shot.

There are a finite number practice reps/snaps in an NFL practice and the lions share goes to the starter then the QB of the future or back-up then if there are scraps then the 3rd string QB can get a look running his teams offense.
Otherwise they're running the scout team w/ a simplified version of the teams next opponent.

[SmootSmack]

Hey 30, do you mean Jared Gaither in your sig? Or is there someone named Jeremy Gaither that I don't know about.

Clabo would be something else, not sure he leaves though

Starting to hear Harris may not be so definite here, but as I've mentioned in the past, Jammal Brown is likely to return so maybe no room for both?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hey 30, do you mean Jared Gaither in your sig? Or is there someone named Jeremy Gaither that I don't know about.

Clabo would be something else, not sure he leaves though

Starting to hear Harris may not be so definite here, but as I've mentioned in the past, Jammal Brown is likely to return so maybe no room for both?

LoL, yeah it should be Jared.
Clabo? If we're supposedly looking at Santonio Holmes and Cullen Jenkins then I figure why not make a run at one of the better players at position where we're in need of an upgrade.

I'm glad to hear that about Harris I think he's over rated.
Yeah, he has scheme familiarity and yes he's young but he's also injury prone.

I can't imagine why we would want Jammal Brown over some of the other FA OTs.
He's older; he's essentially playing out of position and may want a good amount of money.
I think we should be able to do better then a RT who was barely more effective then Stephon Heyer.

Heck, I would be okay with a journeyman brought in to compete with Clint Oldenburg as I would be with Jammal Brown and Ryan Harris.

Journeymen: Basically looking for the FA versions of our own Monty/Licht guys that got a chance to play and played well enough to garner a look as a starter:
Pat McQuistan
Ryan Cook

Longshots to bring in to compete for the job:
Rashad Butler (scheme familiarity w/ Kyle in Houston but only 4 career starts)

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Beck went to the Ravens mid-training camp. He was behind Troy Smith who was gonna be the starter and behind Joe Flacco the QB of the future both of which were selected by the Ravens front office.
Then they had the chance to get a proven starter like Mark Bulger.
Beck was the odd man out caught in a numbers game.

It doesn't mean he can or can't play just that he wasn't in a situation where he was gonna get a real shot.

There are a finite number practice reps/snaps in an NFL practice and the lions share goes to the starter then the QB of the future or back-up then if there are scraps then the 3rd string QB can get a look running his teams offense.
Otherwise they're running the scout team w/ a simplified version of the teams next opponent.

If you can't compete and make one of three spots, that tells me the guy sucks. Bring in the oft injured Bulger over a young kid tells me all I need to know. A FA QB is in the works.