Redskins Draft Analysis Thread

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Really? and the 49ers are not? I honestly think he chose not to come out this yr because he knew he would not be picked up by his ole ball coach. So he chose to stay in college another yr vs. getting stuck with a screwed up team, ie; Panthers, or Bills.

I'm betting the 49ers throw a ton at whoever is 1st in the draft in order to get him next yr. So I'd pretty much look at the rest of the QB's coming out and pick one of them. Not to mention Luck might not have a good yr considering the school will have a new HC and probably a new scheme.

The 49ers used a high 2nd round pick to draft Colin Kaepernick. Unless he totally flops as an NFL prospect in just one season, I'd be pretty stunned if they gave up a ton to get up to #1 overall.

[GMScud]

For those of you who don't have ESPN insider, here's Todd McShay's take on our draft:

Washington Redskins

Best move: Trading back from No. 10 to 16
The Redskins used the 16th pick acquired from Jacksonville on DE Ryan Kerrigan, who will never be elite but is the kind of quality player and character guy the organization needs. It was a patient move and sent the right message. You could argue Washington had more holes than any other team heading into the draft, and getting WR Leonard Hankerson with the 49th pick (also acquired in the deal) got the Redskins a player who could easily be a starter for them.
Most questionable move: Dejon Gomes in the fifth round
Washington could have gotten a better safety at that point, someone like Ahmad Black. Or how about bringing in a developmental quarterback like T.J. Yates?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GMScud

For those of you who don't have ESPN insider, here's Todd McShay's take on our draft:

Washington Redskins

Best move: Trading back from No. 10 to 16
The Redskins used the 16th pick acquired from Jacksonville on DE Ryan Kerrigan, who will never be elite but is the kind of quality player and character guy the organization needs. It was a patient move and sent the right message. You could argue Washington had more holes than any other team heading into the draft, and getting WR Leonard Hankerson with the 49th pick (also acquired in the deal) got the Redskins a player who could easily be a starter for them.
Most questionable move: Dejon Gomes in the fifth round
Washington could have gotten a better safety at that point, someone like Ahmad Black. Or how about bringing in a developmental quarterback like T.J. Yates?

I can't help but wonder if the "never will be elite" is in part due to him being a white dude. After all, Kerrigan's measurables are actually VERY similar to Anthony Spencer's, but Kerrigan has a better motor and is more adaptable. If anything, he COULD be Orakpo-lite for all we know.

[Son Of Man]

All in all I think that htis draft should serve as proof that our FO understands where we are as a team, rebuilding. Also, they were savy enough to stockpile picks and manuever to get players who they targeted to fit their system. A true youth movement has started. And I LOVE our first 4 picks....as well as Neild and Royster.

More importantly, not reaching for a QB or taking one that we weren't high on could have potentially saved us from making a HUGE mistake. Looks like; Gabbert = Kerrigan, Hankerson and Helu. I'll take that.

B+

[skinsfaninok]

10 things we learned from the 2011 NFL draft - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

2. The Washington Redskins have finally embraced the draft concept
After abdicating the draft altogether in some seasons through the Vinny Cerrato era (or at least it seemed that way; there was the one year in which Vinny tried to give the Bengals about half his picks for the aforementioned Senor Ochiconco), Mike Shanahan has endeavored to turn over a new leaf in the nation's capitol. Trading down multiple times to get several extra selections, Shanahan and GM Bruce Allen picked up several defenders who look to be better fits in Jim Haslett's hybrid defense, including Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan(notes) and Clemson DT Jarvis Jenkins(notes). Getting players who actually fit the hybrid defenses you're playing? What a concept!

[skinsfaninok]

^ Matt Schaub fits KS offense and Rex isn't exactly mike Vick.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

^ Matt Schaub fits KS offense and Rex isn't exactly mike Vick.

Schaub and Rex both have pretty decent mobility. Mallett has stone legs.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Schaub and Rex both have pretty decent mobility. Mallett has stone legs.

What is a cow without legs? Ground beef? What is a Mallett without Redskins? A cokehead that ain't in burgundy and gold baby!!!

I don't get why people wanted him so bad. He has such bad character and its obvious since so many teams passed up on him. He has zero mobility and is not a good fit for this system.

People just start spouting off they want QB's just for the sake of having a QB because we have a need. You've wasted a pick if you get a QB that doesn't fit your scheme, especially one with a coke background and a bunch of red flags.

Keyshawn Johnson says C'mon man!

[sdskinsfan2001]

Barnes, Hall, Otogwe, Landry, Orakpo, Fletcher, Riley, Kerrigan, Carriker, Bryant, Jenkins. I think that is a pretty solid defense. Need to build some LB depth and hopefully resign Buchannon. Neild will form a nice little rotation with Bryant.

Hankerson, Armstrong, Williams, Lichtensteiger, Cook, Hurt, Capers, Cooley, Torrain, Sellers, Beck/Grossman. Let the young guys play on the O-line and see who we can keep going into the following seasons. I really hope Malcom Kelly can play this year, i still think he is going to turn out being a good asset. And i think the guys we drafted are going to be great slot receivers.

[MTK]

I haven't sifted through all of this thread yet but here is my initial analysis:

Good to see the front office acknowledge that this team is more than just a player or two away. Moving back multiple times to pick up extra picks was absolutely the way to go in this draft. We need players at pretty much every position so to add 12 rookies to the mix is great to see.

I love that in the scouting profiles I'm reading about these guys some common traits keep jumping off the page. Things like hard worker, passion for the game, leader, high character, etc. So not only are we restocking the team with much needed youth and adding competition at key spots, we've placed an emphasis on character and guys that are going to work their tails off whether it's on the field or off. More than anything that's what I really loved about our draft. Hopefully in a few years we can look back on this draft and see it as a crucial turning point in the building of a winner.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I haven't sifted through all of this thread yet but here is my initial analysis:

Good to see the front office acknowledge that this team is more than just a player or two away. Moving back multiple times to pick up extra picks was absolutely the way to go in this draft. We need players at pretty much every position so to add 12 rookies to the mix is great to see.

I love that in the scouting profiles I'm reading about these guys some common traits keep jumping off the page. Things like hard worker, passion for the game, leader, high character, etc. So not only are we restocking the team with much needed youth and adding competition at key spots, we've placed an emphasis on character and guys that are going to work their tails off whether it's on the field or off. More than anything that's what I really loved about our draft. Hopefully in a few years we can look back on this draft and see it as a crucial turning point in the building of a winner.

I agree with what you said about the common personal traits of our draftees. I would also add to that that I noticed a common thread of good production and improvement over at least two years on their college teams. That constitutes a certain amount of proof that they will work hard, in my opinion.

I also noticed that the defensive players who were drafted have shown the ability to be disruptive. There were a lot of TFL's and forced fumbles caused by this group. I think that is an indication of the type of defense the Redskins want to build.

I think that this was a well thought out and researched draft by the Redskins in terms of the personal traits and football skills that they wanted to add to their roster. As an aside, I can't believe that I actually typed the previous sentence after all these miserable years.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I haven't sifted through all of this thread yet but here is my initial analysis:

Good to see the front office acknowledge that this team is more than just a player or two away. Moving back multiple times to pick up extra picks was absolutely the way to go in this draft. We need players at pretty much every position so to add 12 rookies to the mix is great to see.

I love that in the scouting profiles I'm reading about these guys some common traits keep jumping off the page. Things like hard worker, passion for the game, leader, high character, etc. So not only are we restocking the team with much needed youth and adding competition at key spots, we've placed an emphasis on character and guys that are going to work their tails off whether it's on the field or off. More than anything that's what I really loved about our draft. Hopefully in a few years we can look back on this draft and see it as a crucial turning point in the building of a winner.

I could not agree more.

[CrazyCanuck]

All in all I loved the draft philosophy this year. Never thought I could enjoy trading down so much. The draft strategy gets an A in my books.

However I hate drafting skill positions when we have holes in the trenches and all over the team. I can live with Hankerson in the 3rd... fine. But I don't love that 5 of our next 6 picks after round 2 were WRs or RBs.

Who exactly is gonna throw to these receivers? Rexy from his back? And who will open holes for our RBs? I can look past the RBs since Shanny has had success in this area in the past and I don't mind getting him the guys he needs to work his system. But so many WRs?

And of course the elephant in the room is still our QB situation. I now suspect we will target a QB in free agency. I find it hard to believe we'll go thru all of 2011 with just Beck and Rexy. And if we're waiting to draft our QB next year that's fine, but the whole world will know it. There will be no hiding our intentions whatsoever.

Anyways all being said I give them a B on the 2011 draft.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

All in all I loved the draft philosophy this year. Never thought I could enjoy trading down so much. The draft strategy gets an A in my books.

However I hate drafting skill positions when we have holes in the trenches and all over the team. I can live with Hankerson in the 3rd... fine. But I don't love that 5 of our next 6 picks after round 2 were WRs or RBs.

Who exactly is gonna throw to these receivers? Rexy from his back? And who will open holes for our RBs? I can look past the RBs since Shanny has had success in this area in the past and I don't mind getting him the guys he needs to work his system. But so many WRs?

And of course the elephant in the room is still our QB situation. I now suspect we will target a QB in free agency. I find it hard to believe we'll go thru all of 2011 with just Beck and Rexy. And if we're waiting to draft our QB next year that's fine, but the whole world will know it. There will be no hiding our intentions whatsoever.

Anyways all being said I give them a B on the 2011 draft.

CC,

In fairness, do you really think a mid-round QB is going to start for this team or get significant play time? Most midround QBs take a while to get ramped up, if they ever do. Meanwhile RBs can typically play as rookies. WRs have a learning curve too. I understand filling the trenches, but I like that we spread it out some. I'm glad we focused on offense at least a little.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Daseal

CC,

In fairness, do you really think a mid-round QB is going to start for this team or get significant play time? Most midround QBs take a while to get ramped up, if they ever do. Meanwhile RBs can typically play as rookies. WRs have a learning curve too. I understand filling the trenches, but I like that we spread it out some. I'm glad we focused on offense at least a little.

No I agree a mid-round QB would likely not be an immediate answer. But at least we'd have a young QB on the roster. Then next year we could gauge his progress and decide if we wanna dip in the draft for another QB.

What happens at the 2012 draft if we're still sitting with Rex and Beck at QB? We'll reek of QB desperation.

Anyways just food for thought. I'm definitely not trying to put a downer on this draft, I thought they did an awesome job overall.