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Old 11-15-2011, 10:41 AM   #1
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One of the most storied NBA franchises, the Boston Celtics, recently "tanked" to try to get the top pick. I don't think Celtics fans care one way or another about it to be honest.

Not saying we should tank, just playing Devil's Advocate.
Well in that case tanking didn't exactly result in them winning, because they didn't get the top pick they wanted to go after Oden or Durant. They just got lucky that Minny was willing to trade Garnett.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:10 PM   #2
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Re: Report: Trent Williams and Fred Davis Facing Suspension

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One of the most storied NBA franchises, the Boston Celtics, recently "tanked" to try to get the top pick. I don't think Celtics fans care one way or another about it to be honest.

Not saying we should tank, just playing Devil's Advocate.
I'm a huge Celtics fan and have been for over 40 years. You're right. I don't care that they tanked that one season away. Danny Ainge and the Celtics were pretty honest with their fan base. They didn't admit to tanking per say but we knew from the day Ainge took over that he planned to accumulate assets and turn those assets into another superstars or in this case two superstars to pair with Paul Pierce. He spelled that out in the first month he was on board. Had he not gotten that high pick(#5 if memory serves me right) and drafted well for a few years he never lands Ray Allen and therefore Kevin Garnett never relents to be traded to Boston.

The problem with the Skins is for the past almost 20 years it seems there hasn't ever been a plan or a plan that Snyder has stuck with long enough see it succeed. For the first time in a long time it seems like Allen/Shannahan have a plan for the Redskins IMO. I felt this way when Ainge took over in Boston but it took him almost 5 years to turn straw into gold. At least he had a plan which was something the Celtics hadn't seen since Auerbach all but retired in the late 80's. It worked out in Boston. I hope it does the same in Washington but it take time and patience to see it through.

I'm willing to see a couple of bad seasons because that's what it takes to rebuild a terribly run team as the Skins have been for a long time. I still root for them every Sunday like I rooted for the not ready for prime time Celtics Pre-Big Three but I'm realistic. The Skin's don't currently have the talent to contend. It is time this fan base and it's owner realizes that and be patient.
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:03 PM   #3
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I'm a huge Celtics fan and have been for over 40 years. You're right. I don't care that they tanked that one season away. Danny Ainge and the Celtics were pretty honest with their fan base. They didn't admit to tanking per say but we knew from the day Ainge took over that he planned to accumulate assets and turn those assets into another superstars or in this case two superstars to pair with Paul Pierce. He spelled that out in the first month he was on board. Had he not gotten that high pick(#5 if memory serves me right) and drafted well for a few years he never lands Ray Allen and therefore Kevin Garnett never relents to be traded to Boston.

The problem with the Skins is for the past almost 20 years it seems there hasn't ever been a plan or a plan that Snyder has stuck with long enough see it succeed. For the first time in a long time it seems like Allen/Shannahan have a plan for the Redskins IMO. I felt this way when Ainge took over in Boston but it took him almost 5 years to turn straw into gold. At least he had a plan which was something the Celtics hadn't seen since Auerbach all but retired in the late 80's. It worked out in Boston. I hope it does the same in Washington but it take time and patience to see it through.

I'm willing to see a couple of bad seasons because that's what it takes to rebuild a terribly run team as the Skins have been for a long time. I still root for them every Sunday like I rooted for the not ready for prime time Celtics Pre-Big Three but I'm realistic. The Skin's don't currently have the talent to contend. It is time this fan base and it's owner realizes that and be patient.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:23 AM   #4
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Re: Report: Trent Williams and Fred Davis Facing Suspension

The "suck for Luck" debate is an interesting case of ethics at work.

I am just making a comment.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:44 AM   #5
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Re: Report: Trent Williams and Fred Davis Facing Suspension

Ruhskins and freddy, I agree with everything you have said. I am just making the point that "tanking" happens with major storied franchises.

Does the structure of the NBA make it morally ok, or less wrong, to tank? To me, tanking is tanking.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:48 AM   #6
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Ruhskins and freddy, I agree with everything you have said. I am just making the point that "tanking" happens with major storied franchises.

Does the structure of the NBA make it morally ok, or less wrong, to tank? To me, tanking is tanking.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:56 AM   #7
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Hey can we now rename Davis and Williams to "Cheech and Chong"?
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