Art Monk vs. NFL

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You could put guys out there with no helmets and there's still going to be concussions.

It's not getting at the root of the problem.

Yeah. The following article talks about researchers simulating "typical hits" that are not James Harrsion-esque. Neither leather helmets nor modern ones do a really good job protecting against concussions.

Death by a Thousand Cuts - Pulling No Punches - March 2012 - Pittsburgh, PA

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You could put guys out there with no helmets and there's still going to be concussions.

It's not getting at the root of the problem.

Well, football is a violent, collusion sport. So, eliminating concussions altogether is not going to happen unless they tie huge pillows to the players' helmets.

With that said, personally, I think the root of the problem is that players have gotten away from the basic fundamentals of tackling, and have migrated more toward the big, highlights showing hit. And, I DO think that is greatly contributed to the modern helmets giving the players a since of being invincible. Not saying they should go back to old technology or leather helmets, just saying I think players have learned to use themselves more as weapons than tackling machines.

For instance, I went back and watched one of the Super Bowls, and it appeared to me that everybody on defense concentrated more on wrapping up the ball carrier rather than the big hit. There were still big hits back then, mind you, but it wasn't how it seems today where the defensive backs were trying to sling themselves at the ball carrier like they do often today. I think that is the biggest issue with the concussions in modern times; players just need to concentrate on the fundamentals of tackling again instead of trying to get on the highlight reel.

[MTK]

The players keep getting bigger and faster which = bigger collisions, I would guess the # of concussions have risen over the years.

[NC_Skins]

Ricky Williams dismisses concussion data in favor of ‘mind over matter’ approach | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports


The saying.....It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt....comes to mind right about now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Ricky Williams dismisses concussion data in favor of ‘mind over matter’ approach | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports


The saying.....It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt....comes to mind right about now.

He should just stick to playing football.

[MTK]

Yeah getting back to the fundamentals of tackling would go a long way, and this mentality of going for the kill shot is what I think Goodell is trying to curb. Either way you'll never completely eliminate concussions, but I do think more can be done to reduce them.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah getting back to the fundamentals of tackling would go a long way, and this mentality of going for the kill shot is what I think Goodell is trying to curb. Either way you'll never completely eliminate concussions, but I do think more can be done to reduce them.

amen.
i remember in pop warner practice making a wrap-up tackle and the coach making a huge deal out of it. going back to exhibit it again at half speed. i was 10 years old but i was so proud because coach made a big deal, i made sure to try to repeat it as often as possible.

[CrustyRedskin]

Art Monk just made the College FB Hall of Fame, wonder if they are going to sue the NCAA as well....hm

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah getting back to the fundamentals of tackling would go a long way, and this mentality of going for the kill shot is what I think Goodell is trying to curb. Either way you'll never completely eliminate concussions, but I do think more can be done to reduce them.

LIke what? They've already moved the kickoffs up and pretty much eliminated one of the most exciting plays in football, they've gone overboard with all the head to head contact and constantly throwing the 15 yarders and fining guys, they put in the defensless wr rule, might as well put flags on the QB's... in general they really can't make it any safer than it already is.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

LIke what? They've already moved the kickoffs up and pretty much eliminated one of the most exciting plays in football, they've gone overboard with all the head to head contact and constantly throwing the 15 yarders and fining guys, they put in the defensless wr rule, might as well put flags on the QB's... in general they really can't make it any safer than it already is.

They could get rid of kickoffs altogether.

[SmootSmack]

I have heard, through pretty reliable people, that it was not Monk's decision to be the lead plaintiff and he's pretty upset that he's been thrust to the forefront of this lawsuit.

So my question is...how is it decided who the lead plaintiff is?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I have heard, through pretty reliable people, that it was not Monk's decision to be the lead plaintiff and he's pretty upset that he's been thrust to the forefront of this lawsuit.

So my question is...how is it decided who the lead plaintiff is?

Is it because he's the most notable and would garner public support? Much like Tom Brady, Manning, and Brees were on the lawsuits against the NFL during the lockout deal.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I have heard, through pretty reliable people, that it was not Monk's decision to be the lead plaintiff and he's pretty upset that he's been thrust to the forefront of this lawsuit.

So my question is...how is it decided who the lead plaintiff is?

is the lead plaintiff any different from any other plaintiff or just a title?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by los panda

is the lead plaintiff any different from any other plaintiff or just a title?

Honestly, I don't know. Maybe CRedskinsRule has a brother who's a lawyer or something

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Honestly, I don't know. Maybe CRedskinsRule has a brother who's a lawyer or something

One can only hope, that if such a brother exists, that he may also be a member of this forum who can answer this question.

Personally, I would presume lead plaintiff is mostly just a title, and there might be more responsibility in it than of all the other plaintiffs (i.e. lead plaintiff has to show up in court whereas others don't, etc.).