The 2012 London Summer Olympics Thread

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Watched the 200m (mens) backstroke race tonight with Matt Grevers and Nick Thoman winning gold and silver respectively. Fantastic race with Thoman storming in at the end to claim the silver.

Missy Franklin's 100m backstroke race was also fantastic. Huge win by the 17 year old for her first gold medal.

Also, Michael Phelps looked good in the 200m breaststroke semi-final. He seemed to take it easy the first 150m, and then just blew by everybody the last 50m. Guy still has it...lol


Men's gymnastics fell off the wagon. Man that was horrible watching their performance tonight. Guy (Orozco) broke down after his failed vault. Had to be a horrible feeling.

Franklins win was sweet and it was hard to watch the mens gymnastics. I'm not sold on Phelps winning the 200m breaststroke.

[DynamiteRave]

I'm having the hardest time keeping up with the Olympics. I watch everyday at 7pm EST and it seems like people already know what the results are. I can understand if you're overseas but do they air earlier than 7pm? I usually never have the TV on before Primetime TV starts.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm having the hardest time keeping up with the Olympics. I watch everyday at 7pm EST and it seems like people already know what the results are. I can understand if you're overseas but do they air earlier than 7pm? I usually never have the TV on before Primetime TV starts.

Blame the internet, my friend. You can find the results online pretty much as soon as the event is finished, but I guess NBC is trying to wait to air the more popular events during prime time to keep up the ratings.

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm having the hardest time keeping up with the Olympics. I watch everyday at 7pm EST and it seems like people already know what the results are. I can understand if you're overseas but do they air earlier than 7pm? I usually never have the TV on before Primetime TV starts.

Most events are over by 7:00 pm our time. I even was watching NBC news the other night and they gave away who won what right before they started airing the event. Pissed me off so much I didn't watch. They just need to give a warning or make you click a page before posting who won what so I can decide if I want to look.

[HailGreen28]

I don't think we'll hear any more talk about the 2012 basketball team being compared to the '92 team.

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F^ck the news and news sources for posting the results without warning or having to click to open them up. I have tried to avoid seeing the results for thing I want to watch at night but it getting very tough as the results are gtting posted as they happen.

[Monkeydad]

C'mon, FD, at least post some actual competition pictures.





Ah nevermind.

[NC_Skins]

Speaking of jerkoffs. What is it with dumb athletes?


Swiss soccer player kicked off Olympic team for discriminatory tweet | Fourth-Place Medal - Yahoo! Sports


You'd think most of the Olympic athletes would have learned from the other one that got kicked off the team for a dumb tweet.


It's simple. Keep it to thanking the fans and the experience or simply delete your twitter account. Morons.

[JoeRedskin]

Did anyone else see Britain and Ukraine robbed in the Men's gymnastics last night.

What a terrible decision. The guy falls of the horse without completing the required handstand so the judges bump up the difficulty after-the-fact to, essentially, compensate for the massive deduction. Bad. Just bad.

It's why I like sports with objective measurables (i.e. - Who ran the fastest? Who threw it the farthest?) as opposed to judges deciding who looked the prettiest.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

It's why I like sports with objective measurables (i.e. - Who ran the fastest? Who threw it the farthest?) as opposed to judges deciding who looked the prettiest.

I agree, but then we get Chinese girls who come out and beat a World Record by a full second and her personal-best by a full 5 SECONDS in the Olympics. That does not happen naturally.

London 2012: Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen under fire after smashing world record - thestar.com

IOC hints that China’s Olympic swim star Ye Shiwen did not test positive | London 2012 | Sports | National Post

If she were an American, they would have stripped the Gold before she got to the podium. But China, again, no rules apply...just like 2008.

A 16-YO girl outswan Lochte? Sure...don't believe that report. Lochte's final time beat her by 23 seconds...she only beat him in one leg of the race by a fraction and the media has jumped all over that. If men and women were equally fast, they wouldn't have to separate into men's and women's events.

I'm not saying this girl can't possibly be that talented, but you don't improve your personal record by 5 seconds out of nowhere unless you were completely dogging it before. China has a long history of doping, especially in swimming.




I love the sports of the Olympics but this crap really gets me mad and turns me off from it. Whether it's Russian skating judges or China cheating in EVERYTHING and getting a pass, the Olympics have become a world-wide "how can we screw the USA since we can't legitimately beat them" free-for-all.

[NC_Skins]

Luxury lifestyle for North Korean winners, losers may fear fate - Yahoo! News

You have to feel for athletes that are representing countries like North Korea. You fail, and it could mean ending up in a prison camp. Much like the stories we heard with Iraqi athletes.

[NC_Skins]

Wanted to go back and comment on this and add some stuff.

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I agree, but then we get Chinese girls who come out and beat a World Record by a full second and her personal-best by a full 5 SECONDS in the Olympics. That does not happen naturally.

No, no it doesn't. Not to mention, China has issues with doping swimmers back in the mid 90's, and already had one 16 year old swimmer expelled this year for doping so the chances of this girl doping is pretty high. Think about this. A 16 year old girl beating the world's top male swimmer in 50m. Yeahhhhh....lol

China's Li Zhesi to miss London Olympics, says official


Which goes back to my thing about sports and doping that I mentioned in the Redskins forum. It's prevalent and it's going to be as long as fame and fortune are rewards for winning. You actually think Usain Bolt is legit?....lol


A article back in 2008 after the Bejing Olympics where they talk about somebody like Phelps doping as compared to Bolt. It breaks down why ALL the swimmers in the 2008 Olympics were breaking records and not just Phelps, and noted that he nearly lost 2 of those races as well. The 100m race last night, Bolt was very slow at the start and still rushed by everybody to blow them away and STILL break a world record. Nobody natural gets off to that slow of a start only to break a WR and demolish the competition.

Usain Bolt Doping? It's Not So Far Fetched. | Olympics


Another article last year where Victor Conte acknowledges that the Jamaicans were in fact using. (but has no proof)

American Doping Expert Victor Conte Claims Usain Bolt & Other Jamaican Athletes Cheated During 2008 Olympics

“I believe that before the Balco affair, 80 per cent of athletes were using steroids, today that figure stands at about 65 percent,” Conte said in a hard-hitting interview with La Gazetta dello Sport on Thursday.

All 8 finalists in the 2000 Olympics in the 100m were doping.

Conte claims all eight finalists from the Sydney Olympics 100m final in 2000, won by American Maurice Greene ahead of Trinidad’s Ato Boldon and Obadele Thompson of Barbados, were also using banned products.

It's no coincidence the Jamaicans have burst onto the track and field scene, and it's not a big secret either as to their success. They saw what doping it did for the US Track and Field team all those years and followed suit.


In the end, this is why you dope.
How Usain Bolt Earns $20 Million A Year - Yahoo! Finance

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Did anyone else see Britain and Ukraine robbed in the Men's gymnastics last night.

What a terrible decision. The guy falls of the horse without completing the required handstand so the judges bump up the difficulty after-the-fact to, essentially, compensate for the massive deduction. Bad. Just bad.

It's why I like sports with objective measurables (i.e. - Who ran the fastest? Who threw it the farthest?) as opposed to judges deciding who looked the prettiest.

One of my friends is actually a trainer at WOGA, and this was her exact comment in regards to that dismount.

Looks like he got vertical, but his legs passed through together to a crazy 'omg I'm falling' split right away. If it's just the vertical that counts I don't see why he wouldn't get it

Which is why they changed the score. It did suck for the Brits and Ukraine, but it was the right call apparently.

Got to admit, I've learned so much about gymnastics from my friend this year (probably more than I want to know). She works with Valeri Liukin so she knows her shit, but it's interesting to learn how these kids are picked at a young age. Believe it or not, physical makeup actually plays a huge part in it. (overly flexible, hips wider than shoulders, particular knee alignments....are generally all NO gos when deciding) That's your useless information for today. :P

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

One of my friends is actually a trainer at WOGA, and this was her exact comment in regards to that dismount.

Which is why they changed the score. It did suck for the Brits and Ukraine, but it was the right call apparently.

I get what your friend is saying and I, in fact, did watch it a couple times (via DVR) when it happened to see if the guy ever, even if for a split second, got his legs together as he was going over. Maybe I missed it, but I remember thinking his legs never even got close to what one would call a handstand. As to the scoring adustment:

Gymnastics scrapped its perfect-10 high score in 2006, replacing it with one that was supposed to remove some human error by instituting one score for the difficulty achieving certain moves, alongside a second, more subjective score for execution. But even the difficulty points have to be assigned by humans. "Everybody is human and everybody can make errors," Gueisbuhler said. "The dismount of Kohei was a very tricky thing to judge. You are talking about angles, and those decisions have to be given in quick time."

Teams can only appeal—or, in the parlance of the sport, "inquire"—the difficulty portion of their own scores. They can't object to the points they get for execution, or to other teams' scores.

London 2012: Chinese Men Take Gymnastics Gold - WSJ.com

So, after reviewing the tape, I guess the judges thought he had done the required move and adjusted the difficulty of the move since they couldn't change their subjective "execution" score. Seems pretty ass backward to me. Reading more on it, the Japanese guy is sort of rock star gymnast and, it seems to me - like MJ in the NBA finals - he gets the call (or no call in MJ's case).

I still think they were robbed.

[NC_Skins]

Incredible night for US women's gymnastics. Pulled out the team gold after Russia did their best impersonation of the US men's team. The girls did a fantastic job overall


Michael Phelps lost the 200m breast stroke for the for the first time in his Olympic career. He was in the lead all the way until the last 1/2 second when he lost it. He had to settle for the silver. Was disappointed.

Incredible job by the men's relay team for destroying the competition. Lochte, Dwyer, and Berens won this race by giving Phelps a 3+ second lead going into his anchor run. This medal brought Phelps career total to 19 making him the leader in overall medals in Olympic history. Incredible career, and a shame he'll be retiring.


Still impressed as hell with the women's gymnastic teams performance tonight. Remarkable.