Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by dmek25

the only move better then this, is to name sheaffer the GM. i like this move, alot

Schaffer knows nothing about evaluating talent. If anyone became GM, it would be Kyle Smith.

Schaffer's only logical room for movement with the team would be to be Team President if Bruce moved on to another role.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Schaffer knows nothing about evaluating talent. If anyone became GM, it would be Kyle Smith.

Schaffer's only logical room for movement with the team would be to be Team President if Bruce moved on to another role.

That's actually not true from what I've read in the recent past. Schaffer actually is more of a football guy than people know. Obviously he excels in contract negotiations, but I wouldn't say he knows nothing about evaluating talent.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by metalskins

That's actually not true from what I've read in the recent past. Schaffer actually is more of a football guy than people know. Obviously he excels in contract negotiations, but I wouldn't say he knows nothing about evaluating talent.

Perhaps that was an exaggeration to say he knows absolutely nothing, but he's certainly not as strong as Kyle, Alex, or Doug. Doug doesn't seem to want an expanded role (and he shouldn't, given how much of an idiot he comes off as when he talks to the media about anything other than football talent) and no ones knocking on the door for Alex or Schaffer as their GM. Kyle is supposed to be incredibly well respected as a rising talent. Similar to O'Connell, he's someone we can't let get out the door.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Perhaps that was an exaggeration to say he knows absolutely nothing, but he's certainly not as strong as Kyle, Alex, or Doug. Doug doesn't seem to want an expanded role (and he shouldn't, given how much of an idiot he comes off as when he talks to the media about anything other than football talent) and no ones knocking on the door for Alex or Schaffer as their GM. Kyle is supposed to be incredibly well respected as a rising talent. Similar to O'Connell, he's someone we can't let get out the door.

And Kyle ran the 2018 draft, not Bruce Allen nor Doug Williams.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Perhaps that was an exaggeration to say he knows absolutely nothing, but he's certainly not as strong as Kyle, Alex, or Doug. Doug doesn't seem to want an expanded role (and he shouldn't, given how much of an idiot he comes off as when he talks to the media about anything other than football talent) and no ones knocking on the door for Alex or Schaffer as their GM. Kyle is supposed to be incredibly well respected as a rising talent. Similar to O'Connell, he's someone we can't let get out the door.

That's also not true. There had been some reports (Can't remember if it was Keim or one of the other beat reporters) that mentioned that Schaffer was getting some looks for GM with other teams. He's a very valuable part of the front office.

[REDSKINS4ever]

If Mr. Stuck on Stupid Jay Gruden is going to keep the duties of calling the plays what does promoting O'Connell to OC help? He's just another meaningless offensive assistant with an irrelevant title.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

If Mr. Stuck on Stupid Jay Gruden is going to keep the duties of calling the plays what does promoting O'Connell to OC help? He's just another meaningless offensive assistant with an irrelevant title.

I don't think any stock can be placed in Bruce's statement on play calling.

Cooley has gone in depth about the opaque public position on play calling when McVay was first promoted to OC.

He said the lack of clarity was to protect McVay from media and public pressure and scrutiny.

The same thing may very well be going on presently.

[MTK]

I don't think Jay will keep calling plays, Bruce tossing out another lie as usual

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don't think Jay will keep calling plays, Bruce tossing out another lie as usual

Agree, why make the move if that's the case?

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Agree, why make the move if that's the case?

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Well there’s more the OC does like installing the weekly game plans



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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Well there’s more the OC does like installing the weekly game plans



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Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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I hope so. It would be great opportunity for O'Connell to show us what he can do.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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Bruce explicitly said Jay would continue to call plays (At least for now).

As I've pointed out before, Jay is in a lose-lose position if he lets KO call plays. Jays only shot as maintaining his own job security is to keep calling plays and hope the team wins.

[MTK]

^
You really believe anything Bruce says at this point??

Jay needs to win period


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by MTK

^
You really believe anything Bruce says at this point??

Jay needs to win period


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I don't believe anything Bruce says, but given that they promoted OConnell and fans generally seemed to like the move, if Bruce wanted to ride that small amount of good will, he could have said KO would call plays or that Jay would decide. The fact he explicitly squashed the fans hope means that, more likely than not, the plan is for Jay to call plays.

If Jay lets KO call plays and the skins win, it doesn't help Jay. KO will get all the credit and Jay will be sent packing.

Jays only hope of remaining as HC is for the team to win in such a way that Jay receives the credit. After 5 years, its abundantly apparent that Jay is very self conscious in this regard. He's consistently brought in lower-level talent to his staff and spurned guys who he could perceive as being a threat to him. I have no confidence Jay will suddenly start doing what is best for the team and not what Jay thinks is best for him personally.

We also must remember that promoting KO was almost certainly not Jays idea. reports were going around for a while that Snyder loved KO and wanted to do everything possible to ensure he didn't walk away like McVay did. KOs promotion was almost certainly a directive from Snyder.