ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

[celts32]

He's right in a way...if the coaching staff has really been ignoring him like he says then that's pretty childish. Just look him in the eye like a man and tell him why he is not playing. I mean they have half a season of documented proof why he was benched. There was just no need for the childish were not talking to you attitude. Either way he's gone...it's just a matter of how they do it and how big the cap hit is.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by celts32

He's right in a way...if the coaching staff has really been ignoring him like he says then that's pretty childish. Just look him in the eye like a man and tell him why he is not playing. I mean they have half a season of documented proof why he was benched. There was just no need for the childish were not talking to you attitude. Either way he's gone...it's just a matter of how they do it and how big the cap hit is.

what in the world are you talking about? childish? come on you can't be serious! do want GW to sit AA down, give him some milk and cookies and then explain to him why it is he's not playing?
if your told over and over and over and over how to play your assignment but you continually screw your assignment up, then your going to be benched. there is no reason for an explanation. the proof is in the pudding.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

what in the world are you talking about? childish? come on you can't be serious! do want GW to sit AA down, give him some milk and cookies and then explain to him why it is he's not playing?
if your told over and over and over and over how to play your assignment but you continually screw your assignment up, then your going to be benched. there is no reason for an explanation. the proof is in the pudding.

I don't see any evidence that he was told "over and over and over" anything. But I'm sure AA is just flat out lying, and our esteemed, even-tempered, player's coach GGrilliamss is just taking the high road.

Originally Posted by WashPost story

Archuleta said he would prefer that coaches tell him he needed to improve his pass coverage or that his overall play has been poor, rather than be ignored. The coaches pulled him out of the starting lineup during a practice about two months ago, without giving him a reason, according to team sources who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity regarding Archuleta's status with the franchise.

Archuleta said he has felt like an outcast since. "They haven't said anything to me," Archuleta said of the defensive staff.
Archuleta said he did have a 10-minute meeting with Coach Joe Gibbs around the time of his benching, but he has had no recent conversations with Gregg Williams, assistant head coach-defense.

"I talked to Coach Gibbs briefly, and he told me to keep busting my butt and to fight through it, which is fair," Archuleta said. "He pulled me in to try to boost my confidence earlier in the season, which I appreciated."

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by dgack

I don't see any evidence that he was told "over and over and over" anything. But I'm sure AA is just flat out lying, and our esteemed, even-tempered, player's coach GGrilliamss is just taking the high road.

uummm....it's called practice.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

uummm....it's called practice.

If that's the case, you'd certainly have anonymously-attributed quotes from other players, saying "look, while it sucks what's happening to Adam, the fact is he had horrible practices and he had every chance to make things right".

Also, aren't at least some of the practice sessions open to the press? You mean to tell me that all this berating of the highest paid safety in NFL history happened, but NOBODY saw it, or is willing to say they saw it?

[firstdown]

I don't know ahat the big deal is about this interview. He just said that he wants to be told the truth no matter if it is good or bad and thats the end of the story. I don't know why people think its a comunication thing becasue what do you want the coaches to say to him with six games to play. Gibbs "hey AA I know you have sucked this year so after the season we are going to cut you but I hope you play hard the next six weeks when we put you in the game". Come on think about if your boss came to you and said he was going to fire you in six weeks. I'm sure you would work real hard at your jod known that.

[wilsowilso]

I think Arch may have been screwed, but there has to be some concrete reason. He mentions in the article he thinks he knows what it is or was, but doesn't elaborate. I have a new theory about Arch and I'm not sure if anybody said this yet. I think the guy could be a prime suspect if you were doing an investigation into who is using undetectable steroids such as HGH in the NFL. The NFL steroid poilicy has been a joke forever, but over the last year and a half the heat has officially been turned on. It's not so hot that guys aren't using, but I would bet many have stopped juicing because the time was right for them. In Arch's case he was going to get a big payday. So he stopd using and his elite speed completely vanishes. That's the one thing I noticed about him that seemed strange. He looked pretty slow and remember this guy at one time was really really nfl fast. How does that happen and don't tell me it's his stiff hips. Just a theory, but the guy has always been a workout warrior and that is a word that means buyer beware. Those are the types of players who have a history of a complete drop off in play and ability. Just a theory, but I can't understand how someone can get so bad so fast in the middle of their prime. It doesn't make scientific sense unless it's all about science in the first place and the guy has been hooked up with the right kind of trainer if you know what I mean.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I think Arch may have been screwed, but there has to be some concrete reason. He mentions in the article he thinks he knows what it is or was, but doesn't elaborate. I have a new theory about Arch and I'm not sure if anybody said this yet. I think the guy could be a prime suspect if you were doing an investigation into who is using undetectable steroids such as HGH in the NFL. The NFL steroid poilicy has been a joke forever, but over the last year and a half the heat has officially been turned on. It's not so hot that guys aren't using, but I would bet many have stopped juicing because the time was right for them. In Arch's case he was going to get a big payday. So he stopd using and his elite speed completely vanishes. That's the one thing I noticed about him that seemed strange. He looked pretty slow and remember this guy at one time was really really nfl fast. How does that happen and don't tell me it's his stiff hips. Just a theory, but the guy has always been a workout warrior and that is a word that means buyer beware. Those are the types of players who have a history of a complete drop off in play and ability. Just a theory, but I can't understand how someone can get so bad so fast in the middle of their prime. It doesn't make scientific sense unless it's all about science in the first place and the guy has been hooked up with the right kind of trainer if you know what I mean.

No way, what happened was he slept with Greg Williams' wife. That's why he was benched. I don't have any evidence or anything, but it sure would explain a lot.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

No way, what happened was he slept with Greg Williams' wife. That's why he was benched. I don't have any evidence or anything, but it sure would explain a lot.

Best theory I've seen offered yet.

JLC's interview/story today on WashPost offers more explanation, though I'm sure 90% of the people in this thread are just going to say "happy trails loser!!111" and discount the whole thing.

The bottom line for Arch is, he feels that he has been blackballed here, and that because of it, his career is going to suffer for it. I know most here would probably relish that thought, but I think it sucks, reflects poorly on our organization, and will come back and bite us in the ass (if this kind of karma hasn't already).

The article also adds further validation to my earlier claim that the current players on the team are quite aware of how Arch is getting screwed and aren't really happy with it, either.

This is NOT how you run a class organization.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by dgack

Best theory I've seen offered yet.

JLC's interview/story today on WashPost offers more explanation, though I'm sure 90% of the people in this thread are just going to say "happy trails loser!!111" and discount the whole thing.

The bottom line for Arch is, he feels that he has been blackballed here, and that because of it, his career is going to suffer for it. I know most here would probably relish that thought, but I think it sucks, reflects poorly on our organization, and will come back and bite us in the ass (if this kind of karma hasn't already).

The article also adds further validation to my earlier claim that the current players on the team are quite aware of how Arch is getting screwed and aren't really happy with it, either.

This is NOT how you run a class organization.

But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Bill B

But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?

AA is just pissed off because he chose the skins over the bears. he really wanted to play for lovi smith but chose washington for the money. now he's not playing because he's not preforming well, so he's just fireing off at the mouth out of frustration.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Bill B

But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?

Seems pretty clear to me -- Betts and Dock are offensive players who have been part of the lone bright spot this season (the running game), while Arch is a player on the defense responsible for the biggest year-to-year defensive collapse in Redskins history.

Plus, Saunders just seems like a more reasonable, even-keeled guy, whereas GGrilliamss has a rep for being a hardass and a jerk everywhere he's been, and I'm willing to bet Joe is much more involved with the guys on offense than on defense.

You can see from Adam's statements that he's clearly making a point of saying he got a "10 minute talk with Coach Gibbs" and he "appreciated that", which says to me he neither wants to offend Gibbs nor blames him directly for what's gone down.

[dall-assblows]

choking on a splinter

[gibbsisgod]

Let me put it this way:

We would need him to play coverage right now with SS out. Since he cant cover anybody, he is not seeing the field. The defense is bad enough with him on the bench. Why would we want to play a guy we know cant play??? Common sense should tell him that.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, I'd love to hear what the coaches have to say. I mean is AA going to come out and say, "Well, the coaches were telling me that I sucked ass and needed to work on my coverage skills. Well as you can see, I haven't. Sucks to be me."