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Old 11-26-2014, 10:40 AM   #1
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Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy

I think this needed to happen. I think Gruden knew all along that Griffin was just not where he needed to be. I just think Gruden put Griffin in these last few games to show Allen and Snyder that Griffin is not the franchise quarterback they were hoping he was.

So, hopefully Gruden has Snyder and Allen's attention, and hopefully the front office is willing to let Gruden do what he needs to do to turn this team around. This team won't get turned around until some changes in the front office take place, however.

I trust Gruden. I like RGIII, but my eyes don't lie to me. I know what I've seen out on the field, and it's been pretty horrible. The offensive line doesn't help, but Griffin has been horrible.
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:44 AM   #2
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Fuck it, I'm going to do it.







I TOLD YOU ALL SO!!!


This isn't related just to Robert either because I wouldn't mortgage the future on any unsure thing.
We didnt make the pick, Mike ShanaSnyder did.
So go yell at them.....
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:15 AM   #3
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Fuck it, I'm going to do it.







I TOLD YOU ALL SO!!!


This isn't related just to Robert either because I wouldn't mortgage the future on any unsure thing.
Congratulations. Can't imagine how good it feels to see the Redskins reach their lowest point in 20 years.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:08 PM   #4
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Fuck it, I'm going to do it.







I TOLD YOU ALL SO!!!


This isn't related just to Robert either because I wouldn't mortgage the future on any unsure thing.
No one ever listens...LOL
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:48 AM   #5
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Yeah but mortgaged the future with the draft picks, didn't protect his health and didn't do their due dillegence with effectively coaching the qb position. Brilliant. Eff them

That's on Snyder and Allen regarding the picks.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:03 AM   #6
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Its funny that people can say Cousins deserves the shot because other QBs threw picks too. Yet, Colt cannot have that same comparison? Why because hes 3 years older? He is 28. Not 38.

Hes been through the shit at Cleveland and had his bumps. I just think people are brushing him aside and forgetting hes 2-0.

Its about winning. What happens if Colt wins 4 straight? Maybe im playing devil advocate here
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:56 PM   #7
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Yeah but mortgaged the future with the draft picks, didn't protect his health and didn't do their due dillegence with effectively coaching the qb position. Brilliant. Eff them
Is this serious? You think the shnnahans are the ones who put that trade package together and finalized this deal?

You know Shannahan wanted Tannehil right? And that Snyder pressed his team (again) to grab a player ther coaches weren't totally on board with.

I feel like this is all basic knowledge any resskins fan already knows...
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:02 PM   #8
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Is this serious? You think the shnnahans are the ones who put that trade package together and finalized this deal?

You know Shannahan wanted Tannehil right? And that Snyder pressed his team (again) to grab a player ther coaches weren't totally on board with.

I feel like this is all basic knowledge any resskins fan already knows...
No I didn't know because shanny had so much control over personel I thought this was his call too.

Everyone kept saying Dan had taken a big step back at that time, too. Damn chill
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The Cult of Kirk has returned. Unbelievable. Collectively, our memories are short and our standards are low.
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The Cult of Kirk has returned. Unbelievable. Collectively, our memories are short and our standards are low.
LOL, it's official. Our standard are low, I admit it! That's what happens when your RB has more rushing yards than your QB has passing yards.
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The Cult of Kirk has returned. Unbelievable. Collectively, our memories are short and our standards are low.

He was on pace to lead the league in picks... no idea how quickly people forget.
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He was on pace to lead the league in picks... no idea how quickly people forget.
Apparently you didn't see where I explained that in 2 of his games he threw 7 INTs (Arizona & NYG), but in the other 4 games he threw only 2 INTs compared to 7 Touchdowns?

Also... Again... just to be clear, (2-time Super Bowl Champ and veteran of far more than 9 games) Eli Manning has thrown a combined 7 INTs in 2 of his games (Arizona & SF) this year...

It can happen to QBs who get into a funk... Especially a young QB who knows he has to be Superman to win his job and is felling all kinds of pressure to perform.

Memory can be funny... A lot of people are forgetting the 280 yards, 2 TDs and ZERO picks against the Seattle Seahawks... or the 437 yards and 3 TDs vs the Eagles... but remember the 2 bad games for him...

People are also forgetting that every DeSean Jackson homerun this year was tossed by Cousins and... as a side-note... just knowing D-Jax personality and prior history, I'd say it's a good idea to use the QB that will keep him happy...

Listen, I'm seriously not drowning in Cousins Kool-Aid... What I am saying is that he should be the one who gets an extended look over the next 5 games... and I honestly think he has the most potential of the 3 to move our offense... that's all.
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He was on pace to lead the league in picks... no idea how quickly people forget.
No one forgets. At this point i guess you just stop caring because the circus is in full swing and kirk has looked > Robert.
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So if this is the end for rg3, if he was this far behind in basic qb concepts on how to play the position"........someone please tell me what in the flying fuck were shanny and Kyle doing with rg3? They weren't teaching him the position? Whole lotta blame to go around
Kyle knew he couldn't do the dropback game and really never asked a lot of Griffin in the passing game. They were in win now mode and designed an offense for him. The blame lies in the organization for mortgaging the future for a project. That's obviously not on the coaches. True franchise QB's shouldn't need to be coached up on the basics/fundamentals.

Any of you remember Shuler? It's the same thing. Had he been able to run Kyle's offense of 2012, he probably has a couple of good years. But he had no drop back game compared to Gus.
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Kyle knew he couldn't do the dropback game and really never asked a lot of Griffin in the passing game. They were in win now mode and designed an offense for him. The blame lies in the organization for mortgaging the future for a project. That's obviously not on the coaches. True franchise QB's shouldn't need to be coached up on the basics/fundamentals.

Any of you remember Shuler? It's the same thing. Had he been able to run Kyle's offense of 2012, he probably has a couple of good years. But he had no drop back game compared to Gus.
Absolutely. It was interesting to listen to Trent Dilfer on The Sports Fix (ESPN 980) yesterday. He said Kyle was the best possible coach RG could have. He thought the 2012 O was a thing of genius and had he had the buy in from the QB to develop that O further RG would be a on his way to becoming a super star. Trent thinks Kyle is one of the best out there and that is being shown with Clev this year.

Trent isnt sure yet if Gruden has the knowledge and ability to create an offense in which RG can succeed.
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