My 1st anti-coaching thread

[Paintrain]

I've been one that's preached 'trust the coaches' all season and that I trusted Gibbs judgment explicitly but today's loss and the last month in general I think it's time to really question some things..

Playcalling-Terrible decisions on offense with the plays.. Too many conservative playcalls. It seems like there are like 8 total plays in the playbook. When I can sit on my couch in Miami and call the plays before they happen an NFL coach can surely predict the same. Too conservative, playing not to lose=losing football. I'm convinced that this coaching staff is not the right group to get us back to the top. We have better offensive talent than teams scoring 24-31 pts a week but we are not getting it done. That's flat out coaching and execution but it all starts on the sidelines.

Defensive playcalling-Same thing, why did we stop blitzing? 3 & 4 man rushes against an offensive line that was allowing pressure all day when the blitz came? Other than Harris the DBs played exceptionally well for most of the game, why not let them give them a chance to make a play?

Roster decisions-Derrick Frost is awful, worst punter in the league.. Walt Harris has been terrible since October, why is he still playing?? WR depth was a problem coming out of training camp but how can we not have a WR on the practice squad instead of Jimmy Farris who was out of football last week and the #3 WR this week?

Very frustrated and with no #1 pick and up against the cap this offseason I can't say that I'm even looking forward to that anymore..

[Bushead]

Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

I thought of this driving home today. It's what I've said all along: Portis has been a disappointment. We gave up Champ Bailey and a second round pick for Clinton Portis to do the type of things that L.T. did against us. He hasn't come close. Maybe last year the offensive line wasn't good enough, but with a couple of exceptions, the line is clearly better this time around -- while Portis is just plain average.

He had 3 yards per carry today. And I don't want to hear any crap about the Chargers having a good run-d. The reason we brought Portis in was to beat teams that have a good run-d.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

You know bushead, my buddy said the same exact thing. When you have a real RB running the ball it's academics. Portis has done this over and over. He doesn't seem to get stronger down the stretch. He fades into the background after half time. Now what really pisses me off is the fact that Gibbs won't play Nehemiah Broughton or any other RB when Portis is tired. Even Cartwright should have gotten the ball in the fourth quarter.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

I came to the conclusion long ago that the Redskins overpaid for Portis by trading Champ Bailey AND a 2nd round pick that the Broncos used to select Tatum Bell. Adding insult to injury, the Danny opened the vault for Portis before he ever played a down for us. He's the 2nd highest paid RB (behind Tomlinson), but he certainly isn't in the same class as L.T., Shawn Alexander, or Edgerrin James. My simplest measure of a money back - can you salt a game away with a 4th quarter lead by handing him the ball again and again? After nearly 2 seasons here, the answer to that is a resounding no.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I came to the conclusion long ago that the Redskins overpaid for Portis by trading Champ Bailey AND a 2nd round pick that the Broncos used to select Tatum Bell. Adding insult to injury, the Danny opened the vault for Portis before he ever played a down for us. He's the 2nd highest paid RB (behind Tomlinson), but he certainly isn't in the same class as L.T., Shawn Alexander, or Edgerrin James. My simplest measure of a money back - can you salt a game away with a 4th quarter lead by handing him the ball again and again? After nearly 2 seasons here, the answer to that is a resounding no.

Good comparison between Portis and Alexander/James. I heard last week that Portis has not had back-to-back 100-yard games in his two years with the Redskins. He's a gamer, but he's playing well below his potential.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Good comparison between Portis and Alexander/James. I heard last week that Portis has not had back-to-back 100-yard games in his two years with the Redskins. He's a gamer, but he's playing well below his potential.

The running game doesnt work because we cant stretch the field... saftey's can play up linebackers too... I dont think we threw even 1 pass all day longer 15 yards ..i'm not talking R.A.C just plain deep pass....they dont have to respect the deep pass at all....so you just pack everyone up..... Thats the problem

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

The running game doesnt work because we cant stretch the field... saftey's can play up linebackers too... I dont think we threw even 1 pass all day longer 15 yards ..i'm not talking R.A.C just plain deep pass....they dont have to respect the deep pass at all....so you just pack everyone up..... Thats the problem

I agree, that's one of the problems.. I would like to see Brunell take a 7 step drop and throw a fly pattern once in a while, if for nothing more than to show that we are willing to take that chance.. You never know when you are going to get a 30 yd pass interference penalty or what may happen.. But I do know that when you throw a 5 yd hitch on 3rd & 7, that means PUNT TEAM...

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I came to the conclusion long ago that the Redskins overpaid for Portis by trading Champ Bailey AND a 2nd round pick that the Broncos used to select Tatum Bell. Adding insult to injury, the Danny opened the vault for Portis before he ever played a down for us. He's the 2nd highest paid RB (behind Tomlinson), but he certainly isn't in the same class as L.T., Shawn Alexander, or Edgerrin James. My simplest measure of a money back - can you salt a game away with a 4th quarter lead by handing him the ball again and again? After nearly 2 seasons here, the answer to that is a resounding no.

You should post more often. Those last two sentences are all anyone should need as proof that Clinton Portis hasn't been close what we really wanted from him. After being handed the ball 29 times, that's usually the mark of a team that winds up in the win column.

[Hail2em]

yeah i have noticed the same thing about the play calling. seems like they only have a hand full of plays in their playbook. It's either run the ball, play action pass roll out to the tightend or shotgun formation and thats it. I like you if we can see it on tv i know the oppenents have to see it by watching the film each week. not to hard to figure us out.

[Redskin]

blitzing let lt break free for the td in reg and the td in ot dumbass

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Redskin

blitzing let lt break free for the td in reg and the td in ot dumbass

I was talking about in obvious passing situations.. Williams stopped coming after Brees which allowed him to convert some 3rd and longs..

[RedskinRat]

When a team gets the ball on the enemy 30 and can't get their kicker close enough to win the game, the playcalling is officially shit.

Yes, the execution was poor, but the calls were limp wristed too.

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

When a team gets the ball on the enemy 30 and can't get their kicker close enough to win the game, the playcalling is officially shit.

Yes, the execution was poor, but the calls were limp wristed too.

unfortunately we were 3 yards away and we got a holding penalty not exactly easy to get 13 yards i will take 2nd and 3 any day

[SmootSmack]

It's not like it's all that different from Gibbs' first run as coach. I mean you knew when they were going to go with the Jumbo offense, or run the counter-tre, or do a bootleg. Not the most extensive playbook, but with a lot of motion and different formations. The key is to execute it well enough that even if they know it's coming they can't stop it. Like Stockton-Malone's pick-and roll