Redskins Try Out 18 Players

That Guy · 10-06-2013, 07:23 PM

jeez guys, shut it! the goat knows a guy in denver that told him shanny sucks - it must be true!

MTK · 10-06-2013, 09:03 PM

Don't feed.

Move on.

SmootSmack · 10-06-2013, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Don't feed.

Move on.

I know. I'm sorry. Just blows my mind sometimes

Hog1 · 10-06-2013, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Don't feed.

Move on.

.....Sage wisdom

SBXVII · 10-07-2013, 01:38 AM

Really could care less what Denver fans think of MS. This is a different era, different place, different GM, different owner.

Unless they endured 10 yrs of Cerrato and bad decisions, then they can't talk crap. MS/Allen are 100X better then what we did have. But... They don't get this ship righted soon I can see this being just another HC who has come here and failed cause 5 yrs is the longest Snyder has given anyone.

Maybe Gruden then? lol.

That Guy · 10-07-2013, 03:40 AM

so if this were NE, you'd be the bitter browns fan complaining about how belichick has no idea how to be a head coach and should be fired right?

kraft must feel like an idiot for giving such a has-been a second chance... if only you could have been there to save him from himself, maybe they could have won something by now.

JoeRedskin · 10-07-2013, 09:53 AM

@ Goat.

Alllll of this started when you asserted that MS has a knack for alienating players and coaches. I asked for names and you cited one guy in 20 years. Since then you have slipped back into your generic criticism of MS, your reliance on a small sample of Denver fans as and your assertion that last year's success was due to a "gimmick".

As to the first point, I asked for examples b/c, despite having an ego the size of a small country, with the exception of Haynesworth in Washington and Plummer in Denver, every player I have seen speak about MS has said he was fair and that no one was ever "given" a spot b/c of their draft spot or their free agent contract. In fact, outside of one or two, I have never read a disparaging remark about MS from one of his players and have read nothing but praise from his former players. The assertion that he has alienated players or coaches (again, Alex Gibbs being the exception to the rule) seemed to me to be one of your unsubstantiated "I talk to Denver oil men" statements (b/c the fan base is always THE most accurate assessment of any situtation). On this first point I stand by my assessment of your statement - one or two players in 20 years who can't get along with a coach is not a "knack" for alienating players. Your assertion is baseless rumour and typical of your "MS = Bad" assessment.

As to the rest, there are lots of legitimate reasons for critiquing MS time here. At the same time, the assertion that last year's NFC East was just luck based on a gimmick offense and was divorced from MS's coaching is just such ignorant BS that it does not warrant discussion.

Monkeydad · 10-07-2013, 10:00 AM

I'm with you Joe, I do not believe the argument has any factual basis either.

I've noticed that the majority of people who use the word "alienate" are usually fishing for anything they can find to criticize someone. The fall-back route is usually "alienation" accusations. It's a popular buzzword in the media and politics.

We're "disenfranchising" Native Americans from enjoying football too because we're "alienating" them by our lack of "diversity" in our identify. We need to get some "gravitas" and learn to "coexist" with the "progressive" population. We just lack "awareness" and "sensitivity" about "racial equality".

Meks · 10-07-2013, 12:20 PM

last season was not soley on the "gimmick" offense... it was griff's health/confidence, and the coaches confidence in him also... cuz the "gimmick" offense is STILL working pretty fine for the few teams that started using it after seeing how effective it was for us...

CRedskinsRule · 10-07-2013, 12:27 PM

As we turn on GPS [recalculating]

Did the Skins actually make any offers to any of the 18? if not, I would say this thread has run it's course. [your destination is on the left]

SmootSmack · 10-07-2013, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

As we turn on GPS [recalculating]

Did the Skins actually make any offers to any of the 18? if not, I would say this thread has run it's course. [your destination is on the left]

No. And I agree. Time to lock this. Let Goat ruin some other thread

10-06-2013, 07:23 PM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players jeez guys, shut it! the goat knows a guy in denver that told him shanny sucks - it must be true!

10-06-2013, 09:03 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players Don't feed. Move on. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-07-2013, 01:38 AM	#5
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players Really could care less what Denver fans think of MS. This is a different era, different place, different GM, different owner. Unless they endured 10 yrs of Cerrato and bad decisions, then they can't talk crap. MS/Allen are 100X better then what we did have. But... They don't get this ship righted soon I can see this being just another HC who has come here and failed cause 5 yrs is the longest Snyder has given anyone. Maybe Gruden then? lol.

10-07-2013, 03:40 AM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players so if this were NE, you'd be the bitter browns fan complaining about how belichick has no idea how to be a head coach and should be fired right? kraft must feel like an idiot for giving such a has-been a second chance... if only you could have been there to save him from himself, maybe they could have won something by now.

10-07-2013, 09:53 AM	#7
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players @ Goat. Alllll of this started when you asserted that MS has a knack for alienating players and coaches. I asked for names and you cited one guy in 20 years. Since then you have slipped back into your generic criticism of MS, your reliance on a small sample of Denver fans as and your assertion that last year's success was due to a "gimmick". As to the first point, I asked for examples b/c, despite having an ego the size of a small country, with the exception of Haynesworth in Washington and Plummer in Denver, every player I have seen speak about MS has said he was fair and that no one was ever "given" a spot b/c of their draft spot or their free agent contract. In fact, outside of one or two, I have never read a disparaging remark about MS from one of his players and have read nothing but praise from his former players. The assertion that he has alienated players or coaches (again, Alex Gibbs being the exception to the rule) seemed to me to be one of your unsubstantiated "I talk to Denver oil men" statements (b/c the fan base is always THE most accurate assessment of any situtation). On this first point I stand by my assessment of your statement - one or two players in 20 years who can't get along with a coach is not a "knack" for alienating players. Your assertion is baseless rumour and typical of your "MS = Bad" assessment. As to the rest, there are lots of legitimate reasons for critiquing MS time here. At the same time, the assertion that last year's NFC East was just luck based on a gimmick offense and was divorced from MS's coaching is just such ignorant BS that it does not warrant discussion. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

10-07-2013, 10:00 AM	#8
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players I'm with you Joe, I do not believe the argument has any factual basis either. I've noticed that the majority of people who use the word "alienate" are usually fishing for anything they can find to criticize someone. The fall-back route is usually "alienation" accusations. It's a popular buzzword in the media and politics. We're "disenfranchising" Native Americans from enjoying football too because we're "alienating" them by our lack of "diversity" in our identify. We need to get some "gravitas" and learn to "coexist" with the "progressive" population. We just lack "awareness" and "sensitivity" about "racial equality". __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

10-07-2013, 12:20 PM	#9
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 40 Posts: 5,813	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players last season was not soley on the "gimmick" offense... it was griff's health/confidence, and the coaches confidence in him also... cuz the "gimmick" offense is STILL working pretty fine for the few teams that started using it after seeing how effective it was for us... __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

10-07-2013, 12:27 PM	#10
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,698	Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players As we turn on GPS [recalculating] Did the Skins actually make any offers to any of the 18? if not, I would say this thread has run it's course. [your destination is on the left]

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