Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Pierce especially gave the impression that he really did not want to leave, but in the end he left over a deal that gave him more up front money. I think it was more of a difference than just a few hundred thousand because of the way the contract was structured.

Smoot and Pierce both left over money, not the direction the team was going in.

I can buy that it had to do with the structure of the contract, but the way Snyder does contracts is also a reflection on the organization. He backloads a contract, and puts the bulk of the money in the last two or three years, and cuts the player before they get to those years of the contract(which is about to happen to LaVar). If I were Antonio Pierce, and the Giants offered me the same contract, but the bulk of the money was up front, I'd laugh in Snyders face too.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I can buy that it had to do with the structure of the contract, but the way Snyder does contracts is also a reflection on the organization. He backloads a contract, and puts the bulk of the money in the last two or three years, and cuts the player before they get to those years of the contract(which is about to happen to LaVar). If I were Antonio Pierce, and the Giants offered me the same contract, but the bulk of the money was up front, I'd laugh in Snyders face too.

Snyder and just about everyone in the league structures contracts that way. That isn't anything new.

[SanFranSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

Misquoted?? that is a little well that is easy way out. I am and always will be a lavar supporter but like Jerry seinfeld said todays sports people don't cheer for players, they cheer for laundry and whoever is wearing that laundry is who they cheer for.

Lavar in my opinion will be here next year. i want him here but if he said any of this shit this week i am gonna get pissed because as gibbs said the entire town should have one focus-eagles. I am glad he now has to waste his ****ing time on the news because he wasted time earlier this week.

Better have a good excuse

The timing of his comments are really strange considering GW is likely headed to the Texans or Rams head coaching job. You would think LaVar would be optimistic about playing for Blache or someone else next year since GW does not put him in 3rd down packages.....the talk of retirement smacks of laziness and Ricky Williams. I love the guy and hopefully this will motivate him to take McMahon's head off on Sunday. I think he'll get cut because of the cap and we'll look for a veteran to replace him (who's last name isn't Holdman)......McCune time?

[heybigstar]

I hope Gregg Williams stays and i hope Lavar retires, would be great for our cap/

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

Here's what I think of this LaVar thread...

love it!

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You're really being a bit too sensitive/paranoid.

I don't have the time or interest to seek out anyone's posts on an individual basis like I have some sort of axe to grind.

In fact I don't even recall ever having a disagreement with you before... I'm not saying we haven't but I just don't recall because to be honest I lost my list of who's been naughty and who's been nice on this site this year.

I'll be starting a new list and you'll be at the top of people I'm out to get on this site. Congrats, 56fan or whatever your name is.

I am sure that is what your job as admn is. To be out to get people. very mature there big boy. And believe me, we have been into some discussions before, actually since day 1 when I signed up here about two months or so ago. And generally they have been about LaVar and Salary cap crap. Pretty good ones, I might add. So, I look forward to hearing more BS from you. I kinda like it.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Champ I agree, he was frustrated with the constant turnover and he wanted out regardless of money.

Smoot and Pierce both stated they wanted to be here, and both were considered by Gibbs to be core guys.

Pierce especially gave the impression that he really did not want to leave, but in the end he left over a deal that gave him more up front money. I think it was more of a difference than just a few hundred thousand because of the way the contract was structured.

Smoot and Pierce both left over money, not the direction the team was going in.

I dont know if having me agree with you is good or not, because I get crapped on most of time. But I have been saying this for a long time. the way this organization has handled people in the past and handles people is why we are in the shape we are now. Granted, it is getting better, alot better. But to have people leave who you have labled as core guys because of a few dollars says things about the organization. Dan Snyder and Co. have been crapping on people, not just players. Coaches, which is why players leave. Champ left because of the constant player and coach turn over, no money. Smoot and Pierce both say they gave us every chance to sign them, which is crap. If they wanted to be here, they would be. We offerred them contracts very similar to what they signed and they left. LaVar is in the same boat. He is being dumped on big time. He has been the face of the organization for 5 years, and because he speaks out about a contract or playing time, he is going to be dumped. Just like Brian Mitchell was years ago. Our return game has never been the same. Brad Johnson another player crapped on by the organization. He goes to the probowl, throws for 3K plus yards, and Danny boy, not the coach, benches him. Its a revolving door of players and coaches, always has been since Dan has taken over. Like I said earlier, before I get blasted, Joe and Co. seem to have stopped some of the bleeding. But we are again going to be faced with people leaving in the offseason, and having to fill gaps with free agency because of lack of draft picks.

[giacomo2]

just like have been saying for years...arrington is a little bitch. if you listened to him after the giants game, he had no excitement over us winning. he's a selfish peice of trash. and i hope gibbs doesn't play him against the iggles.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

Here's what I think of this LaVar thread...

Where did this come from and who is this doing what?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SanFranSkinsFan

The timing of his comments are really strange considering GW is likely headed to the Texans or Rams head coaching job. You would think LaVar would be optimistic about playing for Blache or someone else next year since GW does not put him in 3rd down packages.....the talk of retirement smacks of laziness and Ricky Williams. I love the guy and hopefully this will motivate him to take McMahon's head off on Sunday. I think he'll get cut because of the cap and we'll look for a veteran to replace him (who's last name isn't Holdman)......McCune time?

To say a guy is lazy because he may not want to play football anymore is retarded. Was Barry Sanders lazy, Jim Brown? that is crazy to say. I am not just saying this because its LaVar. Other people retire or walk away from the game because of other reasons. You dont know why he would walk away, I am sure its not laziness. I dont see football players with repeated probowls, and great offseason programs as lazy. Barry sanders, jim brown, are the only players I can think of that walked away early, but I am sure there are others that would qualify as early retirees.

[SanFranSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont know if having me agree with you is good or not, because I get crapped on most of time. But I have been saying this for a long time. the way this organization has handled people in the past and handles people is why we are in the shape we are now. Granted, it is getting better, alot better. But to have people leave who you have labled as core guys because of a few dollars says things about the organization. Dan Snyder and Co. have been crapping on people, not just players. Coaches, which is why players leave. Champ left because of the constant player and coach turn over, no money. Smoot and Pierce both say they gave us every chance to sign them, which is crap. If they wanted to be here, they would be. We offerred them contracts very similar to what they signed and they left. LaVar is in the same boat. He is being dumped on big time. He has been the face of the organization for 5 years, and because he speaks out about a contract or playing time, he is going to be dumped. Just like Brian Mitchell was years ago. Our return game has never been the same. Brad Johnson another player crapped on by the organization. He goes to the probowl, throws for 3K plus yards, and Danny boy, not the coach, benches him. Its a revolving door of players and coaches, always has been since Dan has taken over. Like I said earlier, before I get blasted, Joe and Co. seem to have stopped some of the bleeding. But we are again going to be faced with people leaving in the offseason, and having to fill gaps with free agency because of lack of draft picks.

All true, but you have to give Snyder credit for getting Gibbs back and Gibbs wanted to work under him. If we are back in the playoffs in his second year, that's pretty good for a team that's been so problematic since Snyder came over.....but Gibbs is back (I know we could have hired Marvin Lewis instead of Spurrier, but we won't go there).....Gibbs has more rings.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.

DIDO'S!!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I am sure that is what your job as admn is. To be out to get people. very mature there big boy. And believe me, we have been into some discussions before, actually since day 1 when I signed up here about two months or so ago. And generally they have been about LaVar and Salary cap crap. Pretty good ones, I might add. So, I look forward to hearing more BS from you. I kinda like it.

Like I said, if you think I'm out to get you then you should probably have your head checked.

If we have disagreed on things in the past what's the big deal?

Isn't that what a place like this is for? To have discussions pertaining to the Redskins??

I think you're being a little over sensitive. I have disagreements all the time with plenty of people here, in fact we all do from time to time, but again that's what we're here for. How much fun would it be if we all agreed on everything all the time??

Whether you believe it or not, I have nothing personal against you. I've ran this site for about 7 years now and I've never had any personal grudges against anyone, that's a waste of everyone's time and it's not what I, or this site, is all about.

But, since you've been here for a whole 2 months, I don't expect you to be able to appreciate all the hard work, time and money I and the rest of the staff here put in to the site on a daily basis. So I'll let you off the hook this time for questioning what my "job" here is and the motivation behind my BS posts.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont know if having me agree with you is good or not, because I get crapped on most of time. But I have been saying this for a long time. the way this organization has handled people in the past and handles people is why we are in the shape we are now. Granted, it is getting better, alot better. But to have people leave who you have labled as core guys because of a few dollars says things about the organization. Dan Snyder and Co. have been crapping on people, not just players. Coaches, which is why players leave. Champ left because of the constant player and coach turn over, no money. Smoot and Pierce both say they gave us every chance to sign them, which is crap. If they wanted to be here, they would be. We offerred them contracts very similar to what they signed and they left. LaVar is in the same boat. He is being dumped on big time. He has been the face of the organization for 5 years, and because he speaks out about a contract or playing time, he is going to be dumped. Just like Brian Mitchell was years ago. Our return game has never been the same. Brad Johnson another player crapped on by the organization. He goes to the probowl, throws for 3K plus yards, and Danny boy, not the coach, benches him. Its a revolving door of players and coaches, always has been since Dan has taken over. Like I said earlier, before I get blasted, Joe and Co. seem to have stopped some of the bleeding. But we are again going to be faced with people leaving in the offseason, and having to fill gaps with free agency because of lack of draft picks.

Despite the horrible way this franchise is run, we're 9-6 and about to clinch a playoff spot.

Amazing. How did this team manage to do that in spite of our horrible owner?? It boggles my mind.

Before you jump all over me I see you prefaced your argument by adding that "Joe seems to have stopped the bleeding".

Well damn, if this is what stopping the bleeding is all about, I sure am all for it!!

[BigSKINBauer]

The iggles think they are getting lavar

http://www.concretefield.com/forum/i...?topic=17511.0