Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS

[SFREDSKIN]

Everybody seems to think that Detroit will be stupid to trade their 20th pick and their 2nd round pick for our 13th. I think a more realist trade would be their 20th and a 3rd round pick, I guess it comes down to how desperate they are at the time.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Everybody seems to think that Detroit will be stupid to trade their 20th pick and their 2nd round pick for our 13th. I think a more realist trade would be their 20th and a 3rd round pick, I guess it comes down to how desperate they are at the time.

Well this was the team stupid enough to keep Matt Millen as their GM.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well this was the team stupid enough to keep Matt Millen as their GM.

I don't think Jim Schwartz and Martin Mayhew are stupid. If people think Detroit would give up their 2nd rounder to move 7 seven spots, then you are dreaming. The 3rd round pick is the first pick of the 3rd round which is more realistic. Good luck finding a taker in that kind of deal. You could also trade the 13th pick for their 2nd, 3rd and possibly a 5th rounder. Actually, the Redskins would do the kind of deal you describe. Giving a 2nd rounder and a 6th for a on old DE.

[Paintrain]

I'm not a huge Rabach fan, seen him get pushed back into JC too many times, but RT is the priority. If one of the big 3 (Smith, Monroe, Smith) doesn't fall then we should draft DE/OLB at 13. I'm pretty wary of Oher for some reason.

While it may sound crazy, what's the harm in seeing what we have in Heyer? He started 12 games over the past 2 years and hasn't been overmatched out there. From what I saw he was an upgrade over Jansen. If we don't sign or draft a 1st round OT I'd give him the job going into OTA's and let him sink or swim.

[SmootSmack]

According to Elfin of the Times, VC says Brown never came for a visit

[cobracai1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

According to Elfin of the Times, VC says Brown never came for a visit

This is really weird. It's like they really just don't see anything in any of the FA linemen left. If that is the case and they rather hinge their bets on JUST the draft, I think its a huge gamble. The way we're going I feel it might become a necessity to call out a Britton with our 13th pick. If we can't trade down and the big 4 are not there, we will still need to get an offensive tackle. At least to show that they are trying.

Smoot, have you heard anything else from the Barnes front. Haven't heard anything except that he is asking for vernon carey type money which is obsurd.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by cobracai1

This is really weird. It's like they really just don't see anything in any of the FA linemen left. If that is the case and they rather hinge their bets on JUST the draft, I think its a huge gamble. The way we're going I feel it might become a necessity to call out a Britton with our 13th pick. If we can't trade down and the big 4 are not there, we will still need to get an offensive tackle. At least to show that they are trying.

Smoot, have you heard anything else from the Barnes front. Haven't heard anything except that he is asking for vernon carey type money which is obsurd.

I think the FO is probably spot on wrt available OT talent left in FA... there really isn't anything to get excited about. So yeah we're probably addressing that position in the draft and one of the top 4 guys should fall to us. On the flip side there is some talent to be recruited at LDE and OLB (in FA). We're not flush w/ cash so we have to move carefully... but i feel pretty confident by the time OTAs roll around we'll have signed some talent off the FA market to those spots.

... i'm still hoping for Marcus to return.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by cobracai1

This is really weird. It's like they really just don't see anything in any of the FA linemen left. If that is the case and they rather hinge their bets on JUST the draft, I think its a huge gamble. The way we're going I feel it might become a necessity to call out a Britton with our 13th pick. If we can't trade down and the big 4 are not there, we will still need to get an offensive tackle. At least to show that they are trying.

Smoot, have you heard anything else from the Barnes front. Haven't heard anything except that he is asking for vernon carey type money which is obsurd.

I've been kinda busy with work these past few days to follow much of what's been happening with the Skins. All I heard was Barnes wanted a lot, and the Redskins weren't willing to match it supposedly. I think Barnes and his agent reached out to the Redskins, not the other way around. So I don't know how the strong the interest ever was from the Skins anyway.

As I mentioned a few posts back (I think it was in this thread), there seem to be some people who believe the problem is that they need to find another starting RT, while others feel it's depth-particularly on the interior-that's lacking. I don't know what the people who actually matter specifically think

[cobracai1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've been kinda busy with work these past few days to follow much of what's been happening with the Skins. All I heard was Barnes wanted a lot, and the Redskins weren't willing to match it supposedly. I think Barnes and his agent reached out to the Redskins, not the other way around. So I don't know how the strong the interest ever was from the Skins anyway.

As I mentioned a few posts back (I think it was in this thread), there seem to be some people who believe the problem is that they need to find another starting RT, while others feel it's depth-particularly on the interior-that's lacking. I don't know what the people who actually matter specifically think

Thanks for the update. The only source (if you can really call him one) I have with any relevant news basically said that they don't feel the need to sign a guy just to sign him. I predict a run at O-linemen like we did last year with receivers. It seems our FO targets a need and goes for the kill and I don't mean that in a negative way. Lets just hope one of the 4 are there and we can get a cost effective solution at SLB at least for this year.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by cobracai1

Thanks for the update. The only source (if you can really call him one) I have with any relevant news basically said that they don't feel the need to sign a guy just to sign him. I predict a run at O-linemen like we did last year with receivers. It seems our FO targets a need and goes for the kill and I don't mean that in a negative way. Lets just hope one of the 4 are there and we can get a cost effective solution at SLB at least for this year.

Cobra - one update that has some impact on Barnes - the Jaguars just signed Tra Thomas to a deal so they will not retain Barnes. I don't know if the Eagles were ever interested in Barnes, but if they are not I would think the Tra Thomas signing weakens the amount of money Barnes can ask for with the Jags out of the running.....



FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Jaguars, Pro Bowl OT Thomas agree to terms

[53Fan]

If we were to sweeten the deal...maybe. I would be shocked and elated if Detroit gave us #20 AND #33 for #13. As SFREDSKIN said, a first and third would make more sense for Detroit according to the value chart.

[Ruhskins]

I wish I had sources like you guys

[mcludka]

I feel like LB might just end up being a weakness for the D. We managed to cover it up a bit last year, so with AH maybe we can cover it up again. RT has to addressed via the draft either with #13 or in round 3 if the top 4 are gone. DE can be a rotation and the 3rd rounder (if we get an OT in 1). It can also be #13 if the to 4 are gone. Seems like the way we are heading.

[SBXVII]

Sorry I guess I'm getting Barnes and Brown mixed up. Although Barnes was turned down by the Raiders cause they can't or won't pay what he wants.

RAIDERS EXIT KHALIF BARNES CHASE FOR GOOD
Posted by Mike Florio on March 9, 2009, 5:14 p.m.
After remaining a long-shot possible destination for Jaguars free-agent tackle Khalif Barnes, the Oakland Raiders have decided to call it quits.

According to RaiderBeat.com, the team no longer is interested in signing Barnes.

Multiple reports last week linked the former University of Washington lineman to Oakland.

His agent, Kenny Zuckerman, has said that unnamed teams are interested in him, but Zuckerman has not identified any of the other supposedly interested teams.

Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today - Redskins Insider

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Sorry I guess I'm getting Barnes and Brown mixed up. Although Barnes was turned down by the Raiders cause they can't or won't pay what he wants.

RAIDERS EXIT KHALIF BARNES CHASE FOR GOOD
Posted by Mike Florio on March 9, 2009, 5:14 p.m.
After remaining a long-shot possible destination for Jaguars free-agent tackle Khalif Barnes, the Oakland Raiders have decided to call it quits.

According to RaiderBeat.com, the team no longer is interested in signing Barnes.

Multiple reports last week linked the former University of Washington lineman to Oakland.

His agent, Kenny Zuckerman, has said that unnamed teams are interested in him, but Zuckerman has not identified any of the other supposedly interested teams.

Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today - Redskins Insider

So does anyone know if we are looking at Barnes? And what is the overall opinion of him. I think I have gotten Brown, Willis and Barnes all jumbled in my mind. Would any one of them been worth it for us?