Skins v Eagles post game thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by donofriose

They did run for 250+ yards, have almost 450 yards of total offense and score 33 points. Offense obviously played poorly but that doesn't excuse the defense looking bad, especially with tackling and gap discipline. Honestly, the entire teamplayed poorly the first half.

They had 26 total first downs, we had 25.
They had 4 drives start in our territory. We had one start in their's.
Out of 13 drives 10 of ours started between our endzone and the 20 yd line.
Out of 14 drives 5 of theirs started between their EZ and the 20yd line.

Our 1st 3 drives ended fumble, interception, safety. Theirs ended Fumble, FG, TD

McCoy is an elite elusive back. He got 184 yds. The one thing that Reid never did was use McCoy like a workhorse. If Kelly does, than that's a point in his favor.

I just think putting this loss on the defense, when they got a TD recovery, and late set us up deep in their territory is mis-focused.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

They had 26 total first downs, we had 25.
They had 4 drives start in our territory. We had one start in their's.
Out of 13 drives 10 of ours started between our endzone and the 20 yd line.
Out of 14 drives 5 of theirs started between their EZ and the 20yd line.

Our 1st 3 drives ended fumble, interception, safety. Theirs ended Fumble, FG, TD

McCoy is an elite elusive back. He got 184 yds. The one thing that Reid never did was use McCoy like a workhorse. If Kelly does, than that's a point in his favor.

I just think putting this loss on the defense, when they got a TD recovery, and late set us up deep in their territory is mis-focused.

Totally agree with you. Football is a lot about field position. You can't give the opponent the ball within your 30 or 40 yrd line. We had 3 turn overs in 7 plays that alone does not give the defense time to rest then we had 2 or 3 horrible punts giving the Eagles the ball on our side of the field.

Someone needs to talk with the punt returner and get them all on the same page. You DON'T field a kick inside your 10 yrd line and they did all night long. We had 4 or 5 times we started inside our 10 yrd line. One of which was due to a penalty.

[donofriose]

No loss is good. Not in the NFL at least.

I personally believe if the skins don't make the playoffs this year or at least do not contend for one until the very end the organization should assess the coaching staff and consider firing some folks. Just my opinion though.

[warriorzpath]

Gotta call it like I see it. Giving away field position and giving up the ball and points- there's no comparison.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Gotta call it like I see it. Giving away field position and giving up the ball and points- there's no comparison.

[SmootSmack]

On the one hand, D Hall's TD was great. On the other it gave the defense no time to rest. That being said, I was disappointed to see how tired the defense looked to start the game. Tired and sloppy. First game of the season, first quarter even, and you look like you're playing in OT of week 16.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On the one hand, D Hall's TD was great. On the other it gave the defense no time to rest. That being said, I was disappointed to see how tired the defense looked to start the game. Tired and sloppy. First game of the season, first quarter even, and you look like you're playing in OT of week 16.

I don't think the D was slow it was more that they did not know what was coming. As they figured out what the Eagles were doing the better they looked.

[Hog1]

I was a little surprised they did not roll Robert out more in some play action looks rather than just a drop back style. We are not really set up for that and it showed......
Like to know why.......I know THEY know
--Fox Mulder

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I was a little surprised they did not roll Robert out more in some play action looks rather than just a drop back style. We are not really set up for that and it showed......
Like to know why.......I know THEY know
--Fox Mulder

I think it is hard to do roll outs when you have no threat of a running game. DEs will go upfield and blow up the play every time.

[skinsfaninok]

^lmao I hope not. Did anyone notice the passes Griff was making in the 4th? He looked on point and his last TD pass was beautiful.

[SBXVII]

I was unable to actually see most of the game, but did get to listen to it on the radio. This is my take and perception:

1. OL was bad. could not create holes or running lanes.
2. Morris was rusty. team stuck with him for too long.
3. WR needed plays to help out RG3. curl and slant routes.
4. Defense took too long to adjust to opponent. 4th series they finally used stunts.
5. Script.

Ok, so I'll break it down now.
#1. If I'm the opponent and I know you are going to play your QB who was injured, then I'm thinking...there is a 80-90% chance you are not going to have him running the ball in the first game of the season. So although you might line up in the option...I doubt your going to have him run the ball. So that limits to him handing the ball off to a RB/FB or passing. So I'd plan on stacking the DL and rushing at you every play. (Same thing they used to do to Grossman which is why we picked up McNabb and finally RG3). I'd challenge you to get make the throws and hopefully not give you time enough to get someone open. EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. There were no run lanes cause they were blocked by the rushing DL.

#2. Morris had a bad game. It happens. I might have stuck Helu in for a couple of plays a lot sooner just to see if his "change of pace" would make the defense back off.

#3. Clearly with the defense rushing and forcing RG3 to pass or trying to he didn't have much time. The coaches should have started using 5 yrd curls, 5 yrd slants, and screen plays to slow the defense down and back them up.

#4. I did get to see the first 30 min. on TV. Personally with any film to study and not knowing what they were going to bring our D was going to have a difficult time. But I didn't think they were as bad as I've heard some people say they were. Even the radio announcers mentioned that around the 4th series our D finally started getting pressure cause of the stunts they were using. I was hoping and expecting our D to be on the sideline ready to change people out after every two plays in order to keep people fresh. But this requires the players to be standing on the sideline paying attention and ready to run on the field as soon as the whistle is blown and ready to run off the field as soon as the whistle is blown. There is no time to go sit on the bench.

#5. Almost every team scripts their first 20-30 plays. That usually takes them to halftime. I understand it didn't help that we had 3 turn overs in 7 plays, 1 INT., 1 fumble, and 1 fumble to a safety. However, if you see what the defense if doing and what they are not giving you ... you have to make adjustments. The Redskins didn't make adjustments until halftime in the 3rd quarter.

Having said all this I don't think our season is doomed or busted. Now we have some film on the Eagles. We know what they are planning to do and can adjust for it. Plus we don't see them again until week 11 which gives us more film to see and game plan for as well as see what other teams doing against them.

[firstdown]

I don't like loosing but I think this loss will do more good for RGIII then it will hurt us.

[davy]

Bottom line is that their guys turned up ready to bust a gut in their attempt to win the game. Our guys just turned up expecting to win with no fire in their bellies. Hopefully that won't happen again.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by davy

Bottom line is that their guys turned up ready to bust a gut in their attempt to win the game. Our guys just turned up expecting to win with no fire in their bellies. Hopefully that won't happen again.

You are absolutely correct. We got outcoached before the opening kickoff even happened. We were not ready to play and we looked like the team with the new coach because of it.

[skinsfaninok]

where was Orakpo last night? He just hasn't lived up to the hype lately, he said he wanted to win the DPOY and he didn't do anything last night