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Old 10-24-2016, 09:26 AM   #106
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the 2 fumbles and the missed field goal is what loss this game...We got to eliminate these mistakes.

Matt Jones fumble on the 1 yard line was a costly as the Cousins INT in the end zone vs the Cowboys. These 2 plays are the difference between 6-1 and 4-3. Margins are slim, cant turn the ball over, but you certainly cant turn the ball over in the red zone.
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Old 10-24-2016, 09:34 AM   #107
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Jones is the one I'm done with. After seeing Kelley and Thompson run, I just don't see what Jones gives us the other two do not. I'd love to know the stats on his lost fumbles too, because damn, it's like we NEVER recover his fumbles it feels like.
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Old 10-24-2016, 09:35 AM   #108
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the 2 fumbles and the missed field goal is what loss this game...We got to eliminate these mistakes.

Matt Jones fumble on the 1 yard line was a costly as the Cousins INT in the end zone vs the Cowboys. These 2 plays are the difference between 6-1 and 4-3. Margins are slim, cant turn the ball over, but you certainly cant turn the ball over in the red zone.
I'm not buying that. They missed a FG too so that evens things out. Even after the fumbles and missed FG, the offense gave the defense a 4 point lead with a minute left. Even the players are bitching about how the defense was called on that last drive. We are not a good zone team. Everyone knows it. Joe Barry coached scared when the game was on the line, but I put it on Gruden cause he's the head coach.
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Old 10-24-2016, 09:43 AM   #109
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Sure the defense wasn't great the last drive...but overall holding a team to 20 points on the road isn't bad.

We had like 415 yards of offense...25 first downs? or something like that. We should have scored more than 17 points
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Yeah I put it mainly on our missed opportunities on offense, the fumbles and the missed FG.
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Old 10-24-2016, 10:09 AM   #111
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I think we can win without Trent for a week but without him and Norman? That would be hard

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In a way I can't fault Joneses fumble in the endzone. He's been challenged by his coach to run like a 230lb RB and not a pussy, his extra effort in trying to score cause the fumble. This will be a lesson to him to just go down, he's not the 1st or last RB to fumble in the endzone due to extra effort.
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Old 10-24-2016, 10:32 AM   #113
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Right guard Brandon Scherff and cornerback Bashaud Breeland also suffered injuries but later returned to the game. Scherff suffered an AC sprain on his left shoulder in the second quarter, but he returned to the game on Washington’s opening drive in the second half despite dealing with soreness.

“The trainers have numbing medicine that they used,” Scherff said. “They just numbed it up, and we were ready to go.”
Breeland missed a handful of plays because he tweaked his right ankle in the second half, but he returned to the game on the following drive. He said he rolled his ankle after he was pushed off, but he knew he had to stay in the game when the Redskins had already lost Norman.

“I wanted to win the game,” Breeland said. “I don’t like letting my team down. One corner already went down. It’s no room for both of us to go down in that type of game. My mind-set was to play through it.”

- Schreff and Bree are tough SOBs.

The injuries going forward kinda scare me.

Trent Williams has been LP for the first day or two of practice every week (I thought for hip?) but this knee injury could take longer than 2 weeks (London-bye).

Josh Norman concussion might mean he will be out for the Bengals game as well. Apparently he left the locker room with sunglasses, fwiw. It appears that Norman has a concussion history - had one last season and missed 2 games in 2014. He might have had more. This article from last year just talks about 2.

Carolina Panthers' Josh Norman enters concussion protocol with head in - NFC South- ESPN
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Old 10-24-2016, 10:56 AM   #114
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Looks like Gruden is going to start Jones at RB next week. That pretty much kills any faith I have in Gruden as a head coach. Good coaches don't allow this shit to continue as it has with Jones and his fumbling. Good coaches instill discipline and correction within a team. Gruden doesn't have it.
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Ty is a great backup LT, we will be ok plus the bengals pass rush isn't very good. Other than at geno who do they have?

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Looks like Gruden is going to start Jones at RB next week. That pretty much kills any faith I have in Gruden as a head coach. Good coaches don't allow this shit to continue as it has with Jones and his fumbling. Good coaches instill discipline and correction within a team. Gruden doesn't have it.
Jay is a players coach and that's a good thing sometimes and that's y he wants Jones to start because he shows faith and trust
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:40 AM   #117
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Looks like Gruden is going to start Jones at RB next week. That pretty much kills any faith I have in Gruden as a head coach. Good coaches don't allow this shit to continue as it has with Jones and his fumbling. Good coaches instill discipline and correction within a team. Gruden doesn't have it.
I would imagine that just sitting on the bench wouldn't necessarily help Jones with his ball security issues. However, I doubt Jones sees the same number of snaps or carries the bulk of the workload at RB. Unless Jones drastically improves, this may be come a RB by committee.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:08 PM   #118
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Joe Gibbs takes Matt Jones out and he never plays again. He would rather let Chris Baker run the ball, rather than Jones.
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Sure the defense wasn't great the last drive...but overall holding a team to 20 points on the road isn't bad.



We had like 415 yards of offense...25 first downs? or something like that. We should have scored more than 17 points


Exactly. Not to mention the fumble on the two was not taking just 3 off the board but potentially 7. We dominated the stat sheet. It does not matter if our d was bad on the last drive or the first drive, they played well enough (on the road) to win. Only stat we didn't dominate was turnovers. That is what sealed the deal. You are 110% correct.
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In a way I can't fault Joneses fumble in the endzone. He's been challenged by his coach to run like a 230lb RB and not a pussy, his extra effort in trying to score cause the fumble. This will be a lesson to him to just go down, he's not the 1st or last RB to fumble in the endzone due to extra effort.


Dude the effort was not 4th and goal from the one. Than you extend your arms. From where Jones was going down , unless his arms were 7 feet long , you do not extend the ball and put it in a vulnerable position. Especially on second down!
That is 1000 percent on Jones. Come on man.
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