Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks

Lotus · 04-03-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

From observation I gather most will agree the Redskins need a QB. However, the method by which we fulfill that need raises many questions and opinions.

There's nothing more difficult than evaluating a QB, especially one coming out of college.
This [PDF] while lengthly, offers an interesting conglomeration of facts, observations and conclusions, many of which we are already familiar.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...xL5i6-eynNvj0A

Interesting article. The conclusion that, in the end, stats don't help to predict an inherently unpredictable draft decision will be maddening for some, enlightening for others. I found it enlightening.

skinsfaninok · 04-03-2011, 01:52 PM

I'm starting to think highly of this kaepernick kid also

Lotus · 04-03-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm starting to think highly of this kaepernick kid also

Okie, I know you like Locker, but Shanny may prefer Kaep because Kaep has accuracy both in and out of the pocket.

SkinzWin · 04-03-2011, 02:46 PM

Wow, seriously?! I've only been teetering on a mancrush with Kaepernick awhile now. How long did it take for you guys to read my posts and wake up?!?

Lotus · 04-03-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Wow, seriously?! I've only been teetering on a mancrush with Kaepernick awhile now. How long did it take for you guys to read my posts and wake up?!?

All I said was that Shanny may like Kaep better than Locker.

Kaep has some tools but he really needs some seasoning before he's doing anything in the NFL, if then.

I'd still rather have Ponder.

SkinzWin · 04-03-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

All I said was that Shanny may like Kaep better than Locker.

Kaep has some tools but he really needs some seasoning before he's doing anything in the NFL, if then.

I'd still rather have Ponder.

No you wouldn't. (Jedi hand wave) You want Kaepernick. Kaepernick is better. You will be my second convert.

Lotus · 04-03-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

No you wouldn't. (Jedi hand wave) You want Kaepernick. Kaepernick is better. You will be my second convert.

I'll keep an open mind. But I am a tough sell. Ponder has been my guy for months.

skinsfaninok · 04-03-2011, 04:07 PM

Skinswinz I give u credit about CK you have sold me on him..

Lotus I agree that he has some more accuracy but Jakes accuracy isn't as bad as ppl think.. I'd love to draft him but I don't see us getting him unless it's at 10

Dirtbag59 · 04-03-2011, 05:39 PM

For what it's worth we've been underrating Locker in terms of accuracy. I was listening to the First Draft podcast today and one NFL GM told McShay that they had Locker as a 70% passer when he's outside the pocket and throwing on the run. Maybe other GM's have him slightly lower but the general consensus is that most of them have never seen a QB prospect that's as accurate as Locker when he's outside the pocket and on the run. The real problem is getting him comfortable in the pocket. If you can develop that you'll have a franchise QB.

I'm calling it now. Locker will be the Skins first pick in the draft. If Tebow is a first round pick, then Locker certainly is and I have to imagine that Shanahan is salivating over the prospect of adding Locker.

30gut · 04-04-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

For what it's worth we've been underrating Locker in terms of accuracy.

Speak for yourself.

Dirtbag59 · 04-04-2011, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Speak for yourself.

Come on. 70% outside the pocket has to count for something. I'm dying here. We're going to draft this guy and I'm still thinking in the back of my mind that he's just a younger version of McNabb.

MTK · 04-04-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Come on. 70% outside the pocket has to count for something. I'm dying here. We're going to draft this guy and I'm still thinking in the back of my mind that he's just a younger version of McNabb.

Why is that a good thing when the actual McNabb was a failure in this offense?

Dirtbag59 · 04-04-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why is that a good thing when the actual McNabb was a failure in this offense?

It's not a good thing. I think that Shanahan views Locker as a younger version of McNabb, except this time he won't be set in his ways and much more open to coaching, and hopes that that alone will be the difference between the two.

30gut · 04-05-2011, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why is that a good thing when the actual McNabb was a failure in this offense?

McNabb was a borderline HOF caliber QB and to pretend otherwise is pure revisionism.

I think Locker is a quicker athlete then McNabb more of a fast twitch, light footed and nimble.

Lotus · 04-04-2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Come on. 70% outside the pocket has to count for something. I'm dying here. We're going to draft this guy and I'm still thinking in the back of my mind that he's just a younger version of McNabb.

Of course 70% outside the pocket is excellent. It is what happens inside the pocket which makes Locker worrisome.

Why not take a QB like Kaep who is accurate both in and out of the pocket? I'm not sure that Shanny isn't thinking the same thing.

04-03-2011, 01:52 PM	#2
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,178	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks I'm starting to think highly of this kaepernick kid also __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

04-03-2011, 02:46 PM	#4
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,543	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Wow, seriously?! I've only been teetering on a mancrush with Kaepernick awhile now. How long did it take for you guys to read my posts and wake up?!? __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Team Heinicke Fan Club punch it in - CEO SkinzWin - President FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment Meks - Director of Marketing

04-03-2011, 04:07 PM	#8
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,178	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks Skinswinz I give u credit about CK you have sold me on him.. Lotus I agree that he has some more accuracy but Jakes accuracy isn't as bad as ppl think.. I'd love to draft him but I don't see us getting him unless it's at 10 __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

04-03-2011, 05:39 PM	#9
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Redskins Reconstruction: Quarterbacks For what it's worth we've been underrating Locker in terms of accuracy. I was listening to the First Draft podcast today and one NFL GM told McShay that they had Locker as a 70% passer when he's outside the pocket and throwing on the run. Maybe other GM's have him slightly lower but the general consensus is that most of them have never seen a QB prospect that's as accurate as Locker when he's outside the pocket and on the run. The real problem is getting him comfortable in the pocket. If you can develop that you'll have a franchise QB. I'm calling it now. Locker will be the Skins first pick in the draft. If Tebow is a first round pick, then Locker certainly is and I have to imagine that Shanahan is salivating over the prospect of adding Locker. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

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