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Old 12-18-2012, 03:15 PM   #1
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I was watching the 1991 NFC Championship game on DVD last night and Mays was all over the field after Darrell Green injured his ribs. Alvoid Mays was a pretty quality depth player....
Difference for Mays and our secondary depth now was we had a badass front seven that made opposing qb's very nervous.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:01 PM   #2
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

I don't think anyone was ever saying "We know Shanahan will succeed." I know I wasn't. I had (and have) - as those familiar with liturgy will understand - "a sure and certain hope" that he would succeed. I think we have all had our doubts and, frankly, I still do. At 3-6, I was just not looking forward to starting over again. Winning streaks in December against division foes, however, make it easy to regain one's faith.

If they falter next year, it really depends on what is causing it to determine if MS should be canned. It's still a "right now" league - and, right now, we are successful. If next year's "right now" is a bumbling, penalty ridden, poorly managed team, then MS could very well be on the hot seat.

I just don't think this team takes that kind of step back. Mike has gotten guys who buy into his work ethic - they just needed something to be the catalyst for success and, whatever happened during the bye week, they seem to have found it. I believe we have taken the first steps out of mediocrity. As I said earlier in the thread, how we deal with the inevitable talent drain will determine if we take the next.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:21 PM   #3
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I don't think I can express how much the bolded statement aggravates me. In hindsight, we know that Zorn's best days were in his first 8 games, when he won 6 of his total. We also know that those first 8 games were Zorn staying with what JG had built. Shanahan wasn't even trying to take what he had been given and win with it. He took what he was given, threw a whole bunch out, and started seeing who was going to be his kinda guys. Saying that Zorn and Shanahan had the same win total completely ignores the reality of how the two win totals were achieved. end rant
I understand that all, i am admitting i was wrong, but you are giving alot of credit to personell and hardly any to gameplanning and coaching. You could hand me a team full of hall of famers but as long as im the one standing n the sideline they arent going to win much. So my comment about Zorn was just to point out that if that idiot can coach a team to 8 wins than i WAS wondering why Shanny couldnt. Anyway apparently it seems Shanny can still coach a team so im willing to chalk up the first two and a half years to "i dont give a crap cus its over". Lol
Edit: i didnt say they had the same win total i said Zorn won 8 games and Shanny hadnt cracked six. My point was that if Zorn can win 8 i expect atleast that from Shanny -even with a lesser team. Not enough credit given to in game coaching or game planning anymore -

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Old 12-18-2012, 04:24 PM   #4
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Hey, guys.

I don't post here often. I come here mostly to read and get news about the team and the NFL, and follow the gameday threads, so none of you know me but I have read most of you for years. I've contributed when I can and simply love this place. I have been a diehard fan of the 'Skins since I was a kid and 40 is less than two years away.

The last twenty years have been painful, with flashes of what could have been here and there, the only true bright spot in all that time being when #21 was in our backfield hunting receivers and killing TOs.

I was glad when we got rid of Vinny and Snyder started pumping his brakes on personnel decisions, I was ambivalent but willing to try with the Shanahans because we were epitomizing insanity (i.e., doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results), and I was all behind the trade for Robert.

I thought we would go 4-12, MAYBE 5-12, this season, and I was fine with that knowing we had a guy who was going to be the future.

And wow. Look where we are now.

For me, I think we saw the beginning of a real turnaround here in 'Skinsnation not against the Gi'nts, but against the Ravens.

When a player affects the play on the field he's not on, you've got something very special. What happened on FedEx Field Sunday before last against that Super Bowl quality team was truly remarkable.

I firmly believe week before last was a turning point for our 'Skins. I think Robert is ... well, just incredible. RG3 brought them all together against the Ravens and that allowed Cap'n Kirk to beam the Browns up Sunday. I think Robert will lead the 'Skins to extraordinary heights.

And that's due in no small part to the coaching of the Shanahans.

So yeah, I'm in on the Shanaplan. In fact, I'm doubling down. No matter what happens the rest of this season (and I believe we are going to run the table at this point), the Two Decades of Suck are over. We have no where to go but up.

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Yes RG-3 has rubbed off his win ing attitude on this team which is usually so beyond the realm of what a rookie is capable of. Truly amazing. Great point. You should post more often! Btw enjoy the next two years cus its all downhill from there! Lol!
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:17 PM   #5
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Yes RG-3 has rubbed off his win ing attitude on this team which is usually so beyond the realm of what a rookie is capable of. Truly amazing. Great point. You should post more often! Btw enjoy the next two years cus its all downhill from there! Lol!
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:49 PM   #6
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I must have really hopped on the shanaplan pretty hard because i am convinced we win it all within three years. If we get in now on a seven game roll than look out.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:17 PM   #7
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Are you now convinced the Redskins are a complete team?

^ After reading this I thought it might make for some interesting discussion here.

Funny how just 5 weeks ago we were discussing blowing the whole thing up... Now where do you stand?
Loving it now, wanted to choke the hell out of him after the Carolina game, just thought/looked we were getting worse. Enjoy eating crow now though.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:54 PM   #8
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

It was just a matter of time. You could see signs of it working last year even though the Redskins struggled scoring points. We lost a lot of close games last year as well as this year. But the team has come together. Finally. The Redskins are playing like a playoff team. We still need to add some more pieces in the offseason. But Mike Shanahan could become the first NFL head coach to win Super Bowls head coaching two different NFL teams. Bill Parcells has come the closest in that regard.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:57 PM   #9
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Re: Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

Maybe. Or maybe I'm saying what if all three were here through 2015? One or two may be locked in longer
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:15 PM   #10
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Maybe. Or maybe I'm saying what if all three were here through 2015? One or two may be locked in longer
I truely hope Kyle is in the succession plan as future skins head coach
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:16 AM   #11
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Maybe. Or maybe I'm saying what if all three were here through 2015? One or two may be locked in longer
I'll take a Kyle shanahan-rg3 combo as long as I can get. I would be stoked if we extended Kyle. I'd trade the playoffs this year for locking up Kyle throughout rg3s career in a heartbeat.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:51 PM   #12
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Shanaplan is working fine, Nice to have a decent GM...hit homeruns this year on rookies which is extraordinarily rare to have the top rookie in arguably 3 spots, QB, RB, kicker....and who thought we'd have a great kicker even in wk 2?...crazy lucky.

The real question is this...if this potentially good team wants to become a SB contender, their greatest weakness must improve...which is DEFENSE....so how much of this is talent and how much of this is a Defensive Coach who consistently puts together 20th ranked defenses. Without this outrageous coming out party of RG3, Haslett should have been a goner...to be sure, defense has played better the last few games....but I think that is unquestionably iffy at best and any team could unload a can of whoop** on our defense...it is a joke having a team ranked above 20th in any category that is trying to win a SB...I know, I know it can be done....for a year....but not if you want to build a powerhouse....

Also...the best time to attract a premium Defensive Coordinator is on the rise...The timing is right, I would SERIOUSLY consider whether changing our Defensive Coach could take a playoff contender to a SB contender within 2-3 yrs.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:58 PM   #13
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Shanaplan is working fine, Nice to have a decent GM...hit homeruns this year on rookies which is extraordinarily rare to have the top rookie in arguably 3 spots, QB, RB, kicker....and who thought we'd have a great kicker even in wk 2?...crazy lucky.

The real question is this...if this potentially good team wants to become a SB contender, their greatest weakness must improve...which is DEFENSE....so how much of this is talent and how much of this is a Defensive Coach who consistently puts together 20th ranked defenses. Without this outrageous coming out party of RG3, Haslett should have been a goner...to be sure, defense has played better the last few games....but I think that is unquestionably iffy at best and any team could unload a can of whoop** on our defense...it is a joke having a team ranked above 20th in any category that is trying to win a SB...I know, I know it can be done....for a year....but not if you want to build a powerhouse....

Also...the best time to attract a premium Defensive Coordinator is on the rise...The timing is right, I would SERIOUSLY consider whether changing our Defensive Coach could take a playoff contender to a SB contender within 2-3 yrs.
I wonder how Haslett would do with better talent in the secondary and having a healthy Orakpo and Carriker back on the roster.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:34 PM   #15
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Kyle a innovator? Pfft....dude is just holding this offense back.
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