Looking at the draft.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Man, on physical talent alone, Josh Allen is a stud. Very athletic for a QB with a cannon. Gonna be interesting where the top 6-7 qbs go.

https://youtu.be/QTuKHNz9vbA

Yes that's the exact same skill set as Wentz. Would draft very, very high.

[Chico23231]

At 13, we will be in a good position for the buffalos, Baltimore, Arizona and Jacksonville to move up for the josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. If we aren’t in qb in need

[Chico23231]

Without Wentz, how serious of a QB prospect is Josh Allen?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Without Wentz, how serious of a QB prospect is Josh Allen?

I watched him play that bowl game they were in, dude has a cannon but again he doesn't play against much talent.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Without Wentz, how serious of a QB prospect is Josh Allen?

Can you rephrase? I don't think I understand the question.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Can you rephrase? I don't think I understand the question.

He basically ,means without Wentz coming from a Small school and being pretty good, why would you take a QB from Wyoming in the 1st?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He basically ,means without Wentz coming from a Small school and being pretty good, why would you take a QB from Wyoming in the 1st?

also several years ago I said wentz was overrated and wouldn’t be worth a 1st round selection...big time wrong.

I just worry about hype factor with Allen. But sign cousins and we’re good.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Without Wentz, how serious of a QB prospect is Josh Allen?

I'd imagine still really good. Mobile 6'4 qb with rocket arm. If you build it...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Man, I like his accuracy on the run, but not sure I like the wind-up in his throwing motion. I'm no scout, but it seems slow...

[Chico23231]

Lotta parallels with Wentz...similar narratives

Wyoming's coaches initially visited Reedley to scout another potential transfer,[1] but former Fresno State assistant Dave Brown, who had since become part of the inaugural staff of new Cowboys head coach Craig Bohl, was familiar with Allen, and urged offensive coordinator Brett Vigen to recruit him.[2] While researching Allen, Vigen noticed a large number of parallels between Allen and a quarterback whom he had recruited in 2010 while serving in the same role at North Dakota State—Carson Wentz, who went on to become an starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. Wentz was similar in size to Allen, and also shared Allen's small-town, multi-sport, and late-blooming background.[2] Bohl soon warmed to Allen as a prospect, especially after the quarterback prospect his staff had initially targeted committed to Syracuse. Bohl was the only FBS head coach to visit the family farm, and while there, he told Allen's father, "We went all around the country and there's only one quarterback we want and that's your son. He's going to be the face of our program."[1] Despite receiving an offer from Wyoming, Allen made one final pitch to Fresno State's staff, sending a pointed email to an assistant referencing the fact that the team had received a commitment from a quarterback prospect who was both shorter and lighter than Allen was when Fresno State turned him down in high school.[1] After being rebuffed, he committed to Wyoming, enrolling there prior to the 2015 season.[3]

In his first year at Wyoming, he played in two games and made one start. In his first career start he attempted only four passes before suffering a broken collarbone which ended his season; because the injury occurred early in the season, he qualified for a medical redshirt.[4][5] Allen returned from the injury in 2016 and was Wyoming's starter.[6][7]

After throwing for over 3,200 yards and 28 touchdowns in 2016, he contemplated declaring for the 2017 NFL draft, initially telling his family, girlfriend, and a few friends that he would turn pro.[1] Shortly before the deadline to declare for the draft, Vigen called Allen's father to explain why he should stay at Wyoming an extra year; according to Eisenberg, "When Joel Allen got off the phone and entered his son’s room, he found his son riddled with anxiety about his decision."[2] Before the draft declaration deadline, Bohl told Allen that staying in school one more year would improve his long-term NFL prospects, and Allen also sought advice from Wentz, who told him that in the NFL, he would have many league veterans depending on him to "win games and help secure their jobs."[1] Allen ultimately remained at Wyoming.



This is just from Josh Allens Wiki

[doughtydoubter]

i actually think Josh Allen would be the perfect Qb for Gruden. Love his Arm and size. Yes hes raw. But if there is one thing i trust about Gruden, its his ability to coach up a QB.
Hew would be my dream qb pick at 13 - but i dont think that he will last that long.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

i actually think Josh Allen would be the perfect Qb for Gruden. Love his Arm and size. Yes hes raw. But if there is one thing i trust about Gruden, its his ability to coach up a QB.
Hew would be my dream qb pick at 13 - but i dont think that he will last that long.

I dont see any way the Jets pass him up.Hell even Cleveland at 4

EDIT: Maybe we trade him? https://www.newsday.com/sports/footb...ins-1.16127010

[Schneed10]

All QBs worthy of going in round 1 come with lots and lots of hype. Allen looks like the real deal to me.

Also, saw some discussion on here about Vita Vea. Don't you guys feel like he's really slow off the ball? I watched a bunch of cut ups on YouTube, he's so strong but the last one to come out of his stance consistently.

If defensive line is the play, the only way to go is Christian Wilkins from Clemson. Quick, long armed, and strong as hell. Basically another J Allen.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

All QBs worthy of going in round 1 come with lots and lots of hype. Allen looks like the real deal to me.

Also, saw some discussion on here about Vita Vea. Don't you guys feel like he's really slow off the ball? I watched a bunch of cut ups on YouTube, he's so strong but the last one to come out of his stance consistently.

If defensive line is the play, the only way to go is Christian Wilkins from Clemson. Quick, long armed, and strong as hell. Basically another J Allen.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of him in the 1st round (Vita).

C. Ferrell from Clemson looks like a hog at OLB, nickel DE.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Yeah, I'm not a fan of him in the 1st round (Vita).

C. Ferrell from Clemson looks like a hog at OLB, nickel DE.

Vita Vea is a first rounder all day long. I think he is just what we need if we're going to continue to play a 3-4. It is very difficult to find a dominating NT and he is a lock to dominate, IMO. Like any rookie, he has some things to work on but the size, strength, and athletic ability are already there.

Vea is a player who was routinely double-teamed and sometimes triple-teamed in college. He is a real load against the run but he is also very good at pushing the pocket. He has a burst and a great motor. He also moves well laterally.

Were talking about a 6-4, 350 lb. presence in the middle. He is the kind of player we should want next to a speed rusher. That's because he will demand a double team and free up other defensive linemen.