Fresh Start Political Thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Let's keep in mind that the bill would not have passed if some moderate Republicans had not voted for it. Where were the moderate Democrats in the House and Senate during Trumps presidency, lock step with the progressives, that still didn't vote for this bill.

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LOL, you think both bills were the same?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, you think both bills were the same?

No. I think one had a more conservative bent and no moderate liberals were willing to cross party lines to give Trump an infrastructure bill.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No. I think one had a more conservative bent and no moderate liberals were willing to cross party lines to give Trump an infrastructure bill.

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LOL,trump supporters would think that .

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No. I think one had a more conservative bent and no moderate liberals were willing to cross party lines to give Trump an infrastructure bill.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/b...ture-deal.html


How Biden Got the Infrastructure Deal Trump Couldn’t
The early success of the deal vindicated the president’s faith in bipartisanship. If he can keep it on track, it will help affirm the rationale for his presidency.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...idn-t-n1283457

Why Biden succeeded on infrastructure (and Trump didn't)
On infrastructure, Trump failed twice — first when he tried to pass his own plan, and then again when he tried to sabotage Biden's plan.


It's easy to forget, but the former president was well positioned to succeed on infrastructure, which the Republican said was one of his top domestic priorities. But Trump just couldn't help himself.

In the first two years of Trump's presidency, when his party controlled the House and Senate — by larger margins than Democrats enjoy now — the GOP focused its energies on unnecessary tax breaks and a hapless health care crusade that ultimately failed. After the 2018 midterm election cycle, which left the House in Democratic hands, there were still hopes that an infrastructure deal was possible, and Democratic leaders were prepared to make it happen.

But as regular readers may recall, the then-president decided to attach some strings. In May 2019, however, according to Trump's own version of events, the Republican presented Democrats with an offer: The White House would work on infrastructure if Democrats agreed to stop investigating the then-president's many scandals. Democratic leaders, naturally, said that wasn't an option — they added, of course, that Congress can legislate and conduct oversight at the same time — at which point Trump abandoned the process.

Two years later, the Republican settled on a different kind of idea: If he couldn't have an infrastructure deal, then Biden shouldn't get one, either.

Indeed, Politico reported months ago that the former president was determined to "sabotage" the entire process: "Trump is trying to ensure that his successor, Joe Biden, suffers the indignity of the 'infrastructure week' jokes as well."

Except, as it turns out, Biden is the one telling the infrastructure jokes, not the one at the receiving end of the jokes.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No. I think one had a more conservative bent and no moderate liberals were willing to cross party lines to give Trump an infrastructure bill.

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Of course you do. You need look no further than Trump to understand why he couldn’t get an infrastructure deal done. But it is just easier to blame the left. That is ironic because it is the main reason he got nothing done. Too busy barking about his “enemies”.
Trump tied everything back to Trump. Everything had to work out for him in the end and not the American people. Yet these fuckin yahoos continue to wave his flag and cry about the Dems! It is fucking moronic.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No. I think one had a more conservative bent and no moderate liberals were willing to cross party lines to give Trump an infrastructure bill.

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Well to be honest, it was the Jack-ass that blew-up his own bill, not the Dems in this case. It never even got to a vote. He was in a snit over what Pelosi and Shumer had said earlier, on a separate issue, on the day of the meeting to lay out the way forward for his (really McConnell's) infrastructure bill, and he blew the bill up in retaliation for what they had said in the first 3 minutes of the meeting.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No. I think one had a more conservative bent and no moderate liberals were willing to cross party lines to give Trump an infrastructure bill.

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Let's keep in mind that the bill would not have passed if some moderate Republicans had not voted for it. Where were the moderate Democrats in the House and Senate during Trumps presidency, lock step with the progressives, that still didn't vote for this bill.

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Because it had nothing to do with infrastructure and everything to do with Trumps troubles. Jesus. Convenient obliviousness still rules the day in Trump country. For some reason when I woke up this morning I thought things had changed. Silly me.

[punch it in]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...g-pbs-rcna6076

How racist can the right get?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...g-pbs-rcna6076

How racist can the right get?

You are seriously broken.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You are seriously broken.

No. Im not racist at all. It is your party who is up in arms about a korean American puppet on sesame street that is broken. Keep pretending like you don’t see it Chico.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

No. Im not racist at all. It is your party who is up in arms about a korean American puppet on sesame street that is broken. Keep pretending like you don’t see it Chico.

Read the article, the headline is click bait. Per the usual

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Read the article, the headline is click bait. Per the usual

No. He said it. He is racist. He went on racist fox and friends and doubled down. He is up in arms about a korean American puppet because he is a fuckin bigot. And words like click bait do not discount any of it.
Guy is having a shit fit about a non white fucking puppet. God forbid we read between the lines here.

There is good news Chico. Ole Mitch and the rest of the stuffy ole white GOP will make it harder for Asian Americans to vote!

Should have done it after the kung flu!

What a bunch of assholes. (GOP of course not Asian Americans. Amazing in 2021 i have to clarify that but half the country has been Trumpified so….)

Im gonna go enjoy my weekend now and pretend like these people don’t exist. Possibly also curse out SD for starting this thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

No. Im not racist at all. It is your party who is up in arms about a korean American puppet on sesame street that is broken. Keep pretending like you don’t see it Chico.

Yeah it is . It's just not a puppet either.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cpac-...b07fe20108f653


On Thursday, the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) posted two tweets that told Elmo, Big Bird, Bert and Ernie in no uncertain terms that they would not be welcome at next year’s conference.

Seriously ... They tweeted about puppets.

https://twitter.com/CPAC/status/1461...b07fe20108f653

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...g-pbs-rcna6076

How racist can the right get?

Yeah, I'll concede that some, even many, are getting close to Dem levels.