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Old 11-19-2006, 04:06 PM   #1
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Our Problem: Rushing

Rushing. In thinking about the team, that's basically what I keep coming back to. On defense, we couldn't stop Carnell Williams and we couldn't run ourselves (save for a long run by Duckett) worth beans. Talk all you want about the QB, but if you can't control the ball with the run, even temporarily or in spurts, I don't think you have a good chance of winning.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:10 PM   #2
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The defense can't stop the run anymore. That's for sure.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:20 PM   #3
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Re: Our Problem: Rushing

We had no rushing O today. The little time we saw Duckett, he did very well. Why not keep him in??? Very weird... it's a mystery.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:26 PM   #4
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Of course we can't stop the run. We have a former safety at MIDDLE linebacker, Holdman is garbage, salavea daniels and wynn couldn't make it as backups on any other team, and if that's not enough we have an overrated end that can't even get to qb or stop the run. Our defense needs a facelift.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:28 PM   #5
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I don't agree at all about salvavea, daniles and wynn or HOldman. I think they all do well. I just think everyone has given up on this year. Except for Marcus Washington.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:51 PM   #6
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Re: Our Problem: Rushing

The entire defense is a total disaster, both pass and rush D stink.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:02 PM   #7
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Salavea'a hasn't been better than a backup...ever! He just eats up blocks and will get the occasional push. Him and Griffin are shells of their former selves. Daniels has never been very good and Carter has been disappointing thus far. I think Carter can play, but he can't be the only guy. The Skins look like a different team when Griffin is healthy, whenever the hell that is...Salave'a though, I've never really been impressed.

As for Marshall...he looks too slow to play outside and too bad to play inside.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:21 PM   #8
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I think the basis for our lack of running is a vastly over-rated OL. I do think that these guys could have been great but if you look at the age and condition of our line as unbiasedly as possible it is clear we are hurting.

I hate to admint it but Parcells is right. Jansen isn't the player he was. Thomas has regressed a bit, Rabach is only ok, and Dockery is simply serviceable. Not a one of them can doinate. That is what hurts us.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:28 PM   #9
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I hate to admint it but Parcells is right. Jansen isn't the player he was. Thomas has regressed a bit, Rabach is only ok, and Dockery is simply serviceable. Not a one of them can doinate. That is what hurts us.
Jansen keeps getting smoked around the edges.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:30 PM   #10
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You can see how much Portis does on his own--he makes the first player miss. Ladell cannot. Plus, that fumble killed us. I'd like to see much more of Duckett, like everyone else. Plus, as said a few weeks ago, we should let some younger guys on the o-line get some time, to see what we've got. And if Jansen is hurt (he certainly has not looked the same...), he should sit. But at least we have a pass game for the first time in a while--that will help the run.

I think Thomas is good, Samuels is also good (maybe not great, but I disagree that he sucks, etc). Dock is in`consistent--he takes plays off mentally. Rabach isn't that good--he's better than what we had. Jansen is the real disappointment this year.
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You can see how much Portis does on his own--he makes the first player miss. Ladell cannot. Plus, that fumble killed us. I'd like to see much more of Duckett, like everyone else. Plus, as said a few weeks ago, we should let some younger guys on the o-line get some time, to see what we've got. And if Jansen is hurt (he certainly has not looked the same...), he should sit. But at least we have a pass game for the first time in a while--that will help the run.

I think Thomas is good, Samuels is also good (maybe not great, but I disagree that he sucks, etc). Dock is in`consistent--he takes plays off mentally. Rabach isn't that good--he's better than what we had. Jansen is the real disappointment this year.
BINGO!!! Portis is probably 10-15 pounds lighter than Betts, yet runs much harder. Betts is a fine backup, and adds a lot to the offense as a receiver out of the backfield, but I wouldn't break the bank to keep him after this season. Frankly, I'd like to see more of Duckett the rest of the season. At least he seems to fall forward after knocking the initial tackler backward. The Skins need to find an identity for their rushing attack. If they want to play smashmouth, Duckett should be the man. If they want diversity and a little more finesse, then Betts is your man. Bottom line, neither are anywhere near the caliber of Portis.
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Old 11-19-2006, 07:03 PM   #12
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BINGO!!! Portis is probably 10-15 pounds lighter than Betts, yet runs much harder. Betts is a fine backup, and adds a lot to the offense as a receiver out of the backfield, but I wouldn't break the bank to keep him after this season. Frankly, I'd like to see more of Duckett the rest of the season. At least he seems to fall forward after knocking the initial tackler backward. The Skins need to find an identity for their rushing attack. If they want to play smashmouth, Duckett should be the man. If they want diversity and a little more finesse, then Betts is your man. Bottom line, neither are anywhere near the caliber of Portis.
This is what I've been saying since early last year! Betts can't use whatever supposed power he has. Clinton runs harder and faster. For all his size, Betts doesn't even block as well as Portis. Betts isn't a good back. If anyone pays him to be a starter in the NFL, they're outta their mind. He can't be a #1. He consistently gets hurt and pretty much the only thing he can do is run to daylight. He's a slashing style back who occasionally shows a little power, but not much...ever.

I hope everyone who thinks that "Clinton doesn't fit the system" and somehow that Betts does gets to see over the course of the season just how little he can actually contribute as a #1 back.

And, oh yeah, nice fumble, too...
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Old 11-19-2006, 07:19 PM   #13
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This is what I've been saying since early last year! Betts can't use whatever supposed power he has. Clinton runs harder and faster. For all his size, Betts doesn't even block as well as Portis. Betts isn't a good back. If anyone pays him to be a starter in the NFL, they're outta their mind. He can't be a #1. He consistently gets hurt and pretty much the only thing he can do is run to daylight. He's a slashing style back who occasionally shows a little power, but not much...ever.

I hope everyone who thinks that "Clinton doesn't fit the system" and somehow that Betts does gets to see over the course of the season just how little he can actually contribute as a #1 back.

And, oh yeah, nice fumble, too...
Right on. I'm sick of hearing this or that "fits the system". Portis is the only one who has run well for us the last 3 years, he is our man, no questions about it. He is WITHOUT QUESTION our back, so can we just drop anything that has to do with us not having him as our number one guy next year.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:35 PM   #14
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Our run D is pathetic. Just pathetic.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:51 PM   #15
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Our run D is pathetic. Just pathetic.
What are you talking about? The Redskins D held them to barely 180 yards. Lol.
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