Defensive line..Stop the man crushes..

[dmvskinzfan08]

Looking at the other teams in the NFC East I must say that their D-Lines are impressive. Something we have lacked since forever. We get no pash rush and something has to change. The addition of Jason Taylor and Andre Carter elevating his game brings optimism. But to be honest. We need some new blood in here.

We must stop our man crushes on guys that aren't producing. IF they can't stop the run or rush the passer effectively they need to go. No matter if they are the topic of man crushes for unknown reasons. What i've seen of Rob Jackson he should make the team. Hopefully Erasmus James can show some flashes of pass rushing ability if he gets in this preseason. In an interveiw he also said he can play against the run also which is yet to be seen... saying that. The guys that have been on this team. Who have been a part of a line that has been at the bottom of the NFL as far as sacks need to go. Because obviosuly they are not producing. If anything needs to be tweaked in the pass rushing schemes on defense. That needs to happen also. But if players are not producing we need to find players who do or give one of these new guys a chance.

The Giants defense line helped them win a Superbowl. Because a pass rusher breathing down your neck is a solid equalizer to a pro-bowl QB..Ask Tom Brady...

[gibbsisgod]

Who exactly are you talking about? You do realize we gave up less than 3 yards per carry on Sat. night? The D-line played great against the Jets and Bills. The Colts game left alot to be desired but since then they have really picked up.

[Daseal]

The skins finally did something along the Dline. Lets wait till the regular season gets going to say we have no rush. Jason Taylor is a bit older but still an absolute stud.

[SkinzzFan]

It's preseason guys. Let's wait until Game 1 when Blache unleashes hell. Jason Taylor is still trying to find his way in our system. Let's be patient. My biggest concern right now is situational play calling on offense. That's been this teams achilles heel over the last 2-3 seasons but that's not the topic so I'll stop there. The Defense is going to be straight nasty this year and it starts with the d-line...collectively as a UNIT!

HAIL!!

[MTK]

Huh??

[SmootSmack]

I guess you're saying Daniels, Griffin, Boschetti, Evans, Golston, Wilson, Alexander, and Montgomery need to go?

[GoSkins!]

This is like saying "buy low... sell high".

Yes, if it were that easy everyone would do it. We can get rid of guys that are not producing. That is easy. Now replacing them with better guys... how exactly do we do that with our salary cap? Do you have some defensive studs identified that we can grab?

Maybe what your saying was relevant on draft day. Or maybe its groundhog day....

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

This is like saying "buy low... sell high".
Yes, if it were that easy everyone would do it. We can get rid of guys that are not producing. That is easy. Now replacing them with better guys... how exactly do we do that with our salary cap? Do you have some defensive studs identified that we can grab?

Maybe what your saying was relevant on draft day. Or maybe its groundhog day....

Wait... I'm supposed buy low, sell high?? I thought it was buy low, get high?? Wow... No wonder all my investments are in the snack food industry.

Seriously, what man-crushes are we talking about? I thought it was confined to Brennan and Mason (ohhh, I am all atwitter at the mention of their names!!). I haven't heard an inordinate amount of praise for anyone along the line. In fact, I thought it was one of the more heavily criticized units in the offseason.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wait... I'm supposed buy low, sell high?? I thought it was buy low, get high?? Wow... No wonder all my investments are in the snack food industry.

Seriously, what man-crushes are we talking about? I thought it was confined to Brennan and Mason (ohhh, I am all atwitter at the mention of their names!!). I haven't heard an inordinate amount of praise for anyone along the line. In fact, I thought it was one of the more heavily criticized units in the offseason.

LOL!!!

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I guess you're saying Daniels, Griffin, Boschetti, Evans, Golston, Wilson, Alexander, and Montgomery need to go?

NO I am talking about older playrs that haven't produced and other players that haven't produced. Theydid good against the run but we also need to touch a QB every now and then. Daniels is hurt so I wont comment on him.

Montgomery has played well and has a lot of potential and upside. Alexander is a baller.

The rook Rob Jackson needs to make this team. Eventhough we have only played preseason. He is getting more sacks than the veterans on the D-Line..regardless of competition level. If Erasmus James shows anything we need to keep him also. so whoever is the ODD man out..The young DT have played decent. But you have to be versatile. You need to be able to stop the run and rush the passer. Its still early and like I said. Andre and Jason are going to show up. But we can't let go guys that have potential for older guys younger guys/rooks that can be our future or contribute. Those that have had their opportunity and haven't taken advantage of it are obvisouly not hungry enough or dont ahve the skills. We were near the bottom in sacks last year. If we dont touch the QB we will get eaten up. Even by mediocre QBs. You saw how easily Brett picked us apart. You remember the thrashing we took by the Patriots. Now saying that. You see what the Giants did to the Patriorts in the SuperBowl and there previous game against the Patriots? they ahve a beastly D-Line. Subpar D-Lines are not going to cut it..That's th eonly thing the Giants have over us. You see how they stock D-Lineman and draft quality D-lineman. SO its either time for thos eon the D-Line that haven't stepped up on the D-Line the past few years to step up or they need to find somoen who can do the job.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

NO I am talking about older playrs that haven't produced and other players that haven't produced. Theydid good against the run but we also need to touch a QB every now and then. Daniels is hurt so I wont comment on him.

Montgomery has played well and has a lot of potential and upside. Alexander is a baller.

The rook Rob Jackson needs to make this team. Eventhough we have only played preseason. He is getting more sacks than the veterans on the D-Line..regardless of competition level. If Erasmus James shows anything we need to keep him also. so whoever is the ODD man out..The young DT have played decent. But you have to be versatile. You need to be able to stop the run and rush the passer. Its still early and like I said. Andre and Jason are going to show up. But we can't let go guys that have potential for older guys younger guys/rooks that can be our future or contribute. Those that have had their opportunity and haven't taken advantage of it are obvisouly not hungry enough or dont ahve the skills. We were near the bottom in sacks last year. If we dont touch the QB we will get eaten up. Even by mediocre QBs. You saw how easily Brett picked us apart. You remember the thrashing we took by the Patriots. Now saying that. You see what the Giants did to the Patriorts in the SuperBowl and there previous game against the Patriots? they ahve a beastly D-Line. Subpar D-Lines are not going to cut it..That's th eonly thing the Giants have over us. You see how they stock D-Lineman and draft quality D-lineman. SO its either time for thos eon the D-Line that haven't stepped up on the D-Line the past few years to step up or they need to find somoen who can do the job.

I'm even more confused now. Why don't you just say exactly who you are talking about?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm even more confused now. Why don't you just say exactly who you are talking about?

I don't know either. If you can figure it out let me know.

[JoeRedskin]

dmv just forgot to turn off his sarcasm font.

[skinsfan69]

I've been watching Taylor and so far I haven't seen much. I would say that even with the addition of Taylor, we are not going to have the pass rush that the Giants do. The Giants just abused a very good Cleveland offensive line last night.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I've been watching Taylor and so far I haven't seen much. I would say that even with the addition of Taylor, we are not going to have the pass rush that the Giants do. The Giants just abused a very good Cleveland offensive line last night.

I saw that too. I really think the Giants are going to have a decent season.