Preseason Game 1 Quick Hitters: First of all, calm the hell down

[PennSkinsFan]

http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/08/preseason-game-1-quick-hitters-first-of-all-calm-the-hell-down.html

Pretty brutal, especially when combined with the fact that the Redskins defense gave up 500 yards of offense to the Baltimore Ravens. And getting shut out is never a good thing. It was a complete and utter domination from beginning to end.

[Southpaw]

I tend to agree with the sentiment that people are taking this loss a bit too seriously. There were some positives. The starting O line didn't look terrible; Brian Orakpo looked good, and Jeremy Jarmon looked solid.

What was most troubling about the game was the drop off in talent after the starters left the game. Defensively, there is very little quality depth in the backups outside of Kareem Moore, H.B. Blades, and a couple others. It's an indictment of the way the Redskins front office operates. They trade away draft picks and dump tons of money into players they perceive to be elite, and then they're stuck with 6th and 7th rounders to fill out the backup roles.

[53Fan]

Good article. I pretty much agree.

[SouperMeister]

Calm the hell down indeed!!!

There were definite positives to draw from this game:

Orakpo - the guy is going to be a total BEAST!!!

Kareem Moore - Dude lays the lumber reminiscent of #21 - I'd love to see him playing FS in some defensive packages allowing Laron to move back to his more natural SS position.

Jeremy Jarmon - I assumed this guy wouldn't be ready to contribute until next season, but he's much further along than I thought he would be. I could see him working into the DE rotation this year to give either Daniels or Carter a breather.

The O was without arguably it's two best players (Santana and Portis), so I'm not too concerned. Campbell looked poised, and the O-line actually protected him pretty well. We never generated a running game, but who does against the Ravens? I don't put much stock in pre-season, I just want the vets to come out healthy, and to see some progress from at least a few of the young guys. This game will give Zorn and Blache plenty of ammo to kick some tail in practice. Plus looking at our next two preseason games (Pittsburgh and New England), we will be exposed to excellent opponents which hopefully forces us to raise our game - definitely good prep for the G-men opening day.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Calm the hell down indeed!!!

There were definite positives to draw from this game:

Orakpo - the guy is going to be a total BEAST!!!

Kareem Moore - Dude lays the lumber reminiscent of #21 - I'd love to see him playing FS in some defensive packages allowing Laron to move back to his more natural SS position.

Jeremy Jarmon - I assumed this guy wouldn't be ready to contribute until next season, but he's much further along than I thought he would be. I could see him working into the DE rotation this year to give either Daniels or Carter a breather.

The O was without arguably it's two best players (Santana and Portis), so I'm not too concerned. Campbell looked poised, and the O-line actually protected him pretty well. We never generated a running game, but who does against the Ravens? I don't put much stock in pre-season, I just want the vets to come out healthy, and to see some progress from at least a few of the young guys. This game will give Zorn and Blache plenty of ammo to kick some tail in practice. Plus looking at our next two preseason games (Pittsburgh and New England), we will be exposed to excellent opponents which hopefully forces us to raise our game - definitely good prep for the G-men opening day.

Totally agree Soup. Good post. I've read that Moore should get some time this year allowing Landry to do exactly what you say. Offenses worrying about whether he'll blitz or not just gives them something else to think about. If you look at the game with emotional stability, I may be asking too much, I think there were a lot of positives.

[PennSkinsFan]

Like I said in an earlier thread. One big thing that came out of this is the fact Randy Thomas should have awoken this morning a bit more nervous. Not only are there folks inside Ashburn that are rooting for Rhinehart to win the job because of youth (and because he was a third rounder) but Rhinehart but Rhinehart is delivering as well.

I think next time Tryon is tutored by Darrell Green, he should try paying attention.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

I think next time Tryon is tutored by Darrell Green, he should try paying attention.

If they keep Tryon and cut loose Byron Westbrook, they will be making a serious mistake. I'd understand is Tryon returned kicks, but this guy will struggle against anyone bigger than he is.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

If they keep Tryon and cut loose Byron Westbrook, they will be making a serious mistake. I'd understand is Tryon returned kicks, but this guy will struggle against anyone bigger than he is.

Westbrook didn't do much better so they're both the same in my opinion, remember it's the 1st preseason game so mistakes are gonna happen.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

If they keep Tryon and cut loose Byron Westbrook, they will be making a serious mistake. I'd understand is Tryon returned kicks, but this guy will struggle against anyone bigger than he is.

Of course a fellow Seagull would say that! And of course I agree 100%, Tryon looked lost and slow out there last night. Not good for a 2nd year player.

[killromo]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Of course a fellow Seagull would say that! And of course I agree 100%, Tryon looked lost and slow out there last night. Not good for a 2nd year player.

I agree the undrafted Seagull will be competition for Tryon. Not the time for the FO to save face because they wasted a draft pick on him. He has a couple weeks to make drastic improvement or we cut our losses. I wouldn't be too upset either, we have enough depth.

[The Trigga]

I think the lone bright spot was Orakpo. I was at the game and it looked like he got pressure on Flacco on almost every passing play. He is gonna be GOOD. Other than that, we looked a little flat. But, hey its the first game of the pre-season.

[Miller101]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

If they keep Tryon and cut loose Byron Westbrook, they will be making a serious mistake. I'd understand is Tryon returned kicks, but this guy will struggle against anyone bigger than he is.

I thought the biggest thing Tryon needs to work on is jamming a reciever. It seemed like he was throwing his hands up hoping that would do something. He really needs to hit that SOB coming at him and slow him the heck down. We'll see if he's better at it next week. He's got the Steeler's wide recievers so it won't get any easier.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Like I said in an earlier thread. One big thing that came out of this is the fact Randy Thomas should have awoken this morning a bit more nervous. Not only are there folks inside Ashburn that are rooting for Rhinehart to win the job because of youth (and because he was a third rounder) but Rhinehart but Rhinehart is delivering as well.

I think next time Tryon is tutored by Darrell Green, he should try paying attention.

I've heard more than one player (the most notable being Champ Bailey) say that DG isn't that good a coach/tutor. Mainly because he was able to succeed for so long largely due to unbelievable speed (namely closing speed) and that's something not everyone has.

He's anointed others starters in this league (Rashad Bauman being one) that never quite panned out.

[hooskins]

Another thing is that I dont think JC and the first stringers looked too bad. JC had one bad throw. Rest were fine.


The throw to Hagans was too high, but not a bad pass. The Ravens were playing Zone and an LB dropped into a flats zone, so campbell needed height on the ball to get it over the defender. Also Hagans is 5.8 so a tough situation for JC.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Another thing is that I dont think JC and the first stringers looked too bad. JC had one bad throw. Rest were fine.


The throw to Hagans was too high, but not a bad pass. The Ravens were playing Zone and an LB dropped into a flats zone, so campbell needed height on the ball to get it over the defender. Also Hagans is 5.8 so a tough situation for JC.

Well to be honest those are the plays that JC has to make this year if he wants to stay around. I'm not jumping on JC for that one pass in the 1st preseason game but thats the type of stuff I want to see him making this year. Thats the type of play that can change the whole game.