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Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Why does no one talk about Torain when they talk about our running backs? Shanny was going to start him in Denver before he got hurt.
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
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Bartel and Torain....we'll rule the world Lotus!
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
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I've said it before and will again: I think I'm rooting for Torain more than any other player.
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Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
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I know little about him, but what I know is that Mel Kiper loved this kid coming out of college, saying he was #2 Sr RB...only problem is that the guy is always injured, and was at the time with a bad foot. The other thing is he is not a burner...a 4.5/4.6 40 guy. (clocked at 4.6 while rehabbing) Because of that and his tendancy to hit hard...he is a between the tackles guy..I don't know if he can block...(a player of this style usually loves to block) Shanny loved the kid...said he was one of the best he's seen. He hasn't played a full season or even half of one since his Junior year. He lost half a season as a senior due to a foot injury(Lisfranc midfoot), broke an elbow as a rookie in Denver and last preseason tore a ACL in his knee and went out for the whole season. A torn ACL and not playing last year is pretty concerning. I would think speed issues combined with knee and foot injury history could affect ability to make sharp cuts. I would watch for inability to turn the corner in preseason...probably not a guy to run sweeps...more of a fullback style back...that may be limiting. I would expect him to be able to get tough yards up the gut. He apparantly can catch really well too, he hits hard and does not go down easy. On paper this guy should have a legit shot to make #3 RB over Parker. If we sign Westbrook though...I doubt he has a shot...they'd essentially have to carry 4 backs to keep him (excluding FBs) I doubt that is likely. Hopefully this kid is fully healed and his speed times are understated. That, and the injuries are why he was in the 5th round. I think it is Portis, Johnson, and either Westbrook or Torrain in that order That looks pretty solid to me.
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The Starter
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
haha...ouch, one of the more searing negative articles I've read about the Redskins' rebuilding process.
Oh well, nothing to say except that hopefully this guy will be added to the list of believers after this upcoming season.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ellicott City, MD
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Yeah, that was rough. The worst part is that it seemed to be well-researched and hard to argue with. Then teams have seemingly come out of nowhere to have great seasons before so maybe it will happen again.
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
or at the mid point of this season Rbaner.
He does mention Torian in the longer version of the article. He believes that he will be the teams leading rusher.
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Playmaker
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Wow. Well what can you expect? No one is going to go out on a limb and say the Skins will finish second in the division.
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The Starter
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
Or first for that matter, especially writers in N.Y., Philly, and Dallas.........
I think we have earned the right to be overlooked. Hopefully we will buck that trend this year. |
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Living Legend
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
It's kinda hard to argue against this article. While it is nice to know that the front office has improved and a moron like Vinny is not running the show, there are a lot of things that need to fall in place in order for our team to succeed.
I must say though, that I was surprised to not see any criticism on the change of defensive scheme to the 3-4 (or maybe I miss it). Once again though, I'm hoping for the best.
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
I agree Ruh, it is difficult to argue against the article but it seems rather generic in following the Skins-bash formula of writers. Point out Snyder's shortcomings as an owner, talk about the age of the team (ignoring that the Saints were one of the NFL's oldest teams last year-age is overrated), talk about the middling WR group being less than what McNabb had in Philly, talk about the OL weaknesses from '09 and of course the obligatory Haynesworth commentary. Blah, blah, blah.
I'd love to see a national writer talk about the value of a winning pedigree with Shanahan and McNabb and the positives they bring. Talk about how even in the midst of the Zorn debacle the team was in all but about 4 games last year so there is talent here. It also amazes me that Portis, Johnson and Parker are 'worn down' but no-one mentions Marion Barber & Brandon Jacobs fading badly the past 2 seasons. Felix Jones is fast but fragile and what has McCoy proven in Philly? Nobody will confuse our trio with young and spry but are they ready for the retirement home like most writers seem to think? The article isn't wrong factually nor is it overly biased against us, just kinda lazy.
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Well said. Where was the climax here?? It is not an antagonist take on our outlook as fans, it is a bland assessment of what we did as a bottom tier team in the division in the off-season. These are not the 02-03 wizards piecing together young/old stars and pseudo/ real stars. I think the improvements at o-line will take us to 9 + wins despite our lack of "explosiveness". I compare the 2010 redskins to the 2006 Patriots. A well balanced team that can win a division, and sneak up on teams in the playoffs. Veteran and symbolic of their head coach. Not the same continuity as the pats team.. but a similar steadily progressive offensive team, void of the big play but a winning winning style. AND A 3-4 D !!
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Re: Washington Redskins 2010 season preview (NY Times)
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Comparisons between DeAngelo Hall and Carlos Rogers, projections for Rocky McIntosh, and appreciation of guys like Phillip Daniels and Andre Carter are things that you can pretty much expect national writers to ignore. Just like you wouldn't expect me to be able to tell you the difference between Johnathon Joseph and Leon Hall (Hall is better), how truly underrated Daryl Smith has been, and appreciate future hall of famer Dwight Freeney's complete mastery of his position vs. more one dimensional guys in the same salary tier like DeMarcus Ware and Elvis Dumerville.
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