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Old 09-13-2015, 04:44 PM   #1
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Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

Good: Oline play, running game, and defense vs the run

Bad: defense letting ints hit them in the hands and dropping them. Situational play calling and coaching decisions. Kirks first int

Ugly: penalties and special teams play

Up: Alfmo, garçon, Reed, hatcher, dline

Down: forbath, desean's fucking hamstring, amerson
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Old 09-13-2015, 04:52 PM   #2
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

Gruden just doesn't seem like a HC.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:22 PM   #3
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

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Gruden just doesn't seem like a HC.
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Did Joe Gibbs "seem" like a head coach after his first 5 games? We would have booed him mercilessly on line, and our current owner would have canned him. No doubt in my mind.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:32 PM   #4
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Did Joe Gibbs "seem" like a head coach after his first 5 games? We would have booed him mercilessly on line, and our current owner would have canned him. No doubt in my mind.
But after those first 5 games, the rest of the year, you saw a guy who could adapt. They did finish his first season 8-8 after starting 0-5. The only adapting Gruden has done through a full year plus the start of his second is he isnt so negative in his press conferences. Im hoping he can figure it out, but so far, he is showing no halftime changes or any changes to his offense to fit personnel better. He is showing he knows 1 system and very little changes even within his system when it calls for it. I do find it scary that in-game changes are minimal and changes to his system is none regardless of who is playing, which is why I call him a play caller and not a coach.
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But after those first 5 games, the rest of the year, you saw a guy who could adapt. They did finish his first season 8-8 after starting 0-5. The only adapting Gruden has done through a full year plus the start of his second is he isnt so negative in his press conferences. Im hoping he can figure it out, but so far, he is showing no halftime changes or any changes to his offense to fit personnel better. He is showing he knows 1 system and very little changes even within his system when it calls for it. I do find it scary that in-game changes are minimal and changes to his system is none regardless of who is playing, which is why I call him a play caller and not a coach.
My point was that Gibbs would have been fired after 5 games and you would have cheered.

Perhaps Jay G. knows he was facing a monster D line and gave his guys a chance keep his QB upright. Which he did. I thought our core problem areas of O line, D line and QB showed up and I choose to give the coach some credit.
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My point was that Gibbs would have been fired after 5 games and you would have cheered.

Perhaps Jay G. knows he was facing a monster D line and gave his guys a chance keep his QB upright. Which he did. I thought our core problem areas of O line, D line and QB showed up and I choose to give the coach some credit.
No... I wouldnt have. And I didnt when it happened. Never once have I ever said a HC should be fired based on his first 5 games... Never...

I also give the coach some credit. Callahan did a great job with our OL.

But Gruden does not make changes. He does not do any tweaks. He just calls plays. Im not saying to fire Gruden now, but if its the same every week like last year, then something needs to change after the year. And I dont mean same every week like last year in terms of losses. I mean I want to see him, during a game, see something and make a tweak to take advantage of it. I want to see him adapt, like a HC should. I see the same guy I saw last year except he is calmer in press conferences. That isnt the change I need to see.
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Good: Oline play, running game, and defense vs the run

Bad: defense letting ints hit them in the hands and dropping them. Situational play calling and coaching decisions. Kirks first int

Ugly: penalties and special teams play

Up: Alfmo, garçon, Reed, hatcher, dline

Down: forbath, desean's fucking hamstring, amerson
Which coaching decisions did you disagree with most?
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:02 PM   #8
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

People need to realize this is our head coach's SECOND YEAR of EVER being a head coach. We hired a General Manager within THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

I know we all want to win and the losing starts to piss you off but jesus fucking christ what did you expect to see out there today???????

All we've talked about all off season is "It's okay to lose some games as long as we look improved." DID WE NOT LOOK IMPROVED??

Yes, there were still blown plays and things to fix but thats expected when you're REBUILDING. We knew we couldn't fix the entire team in one off season but I saw DEFINITE improvement.

It's disgusting to see some of the "fans" on here throwing in the towel when it's week 1. Have some faith and support your fucking team for once and maybe they'll reward you with some harder play.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:19 PM   #9
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People need to realize this is our head coach's SECOND YEAR of EVER being a head coach. We hired a General Manager within THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

I know we all want to win and the losing starts to piss you off but jesus fucking christ what did you expect to see out there today???????

All we've talked about all off season is "It's okay to lose some games as long as we look improved." DID WE NOT LOOK IMPROVED??

Yes, there were still blown plays and things to fix but thats expected when you're REBUILDING. We knew we couldn't fix the entire team in one off season but I saw DEFINITE improvement.

It's disgusting to see some of the "fans" on here throwing in the towel when it's week 1. Have some faith and support your fucking team for once and maybe they'll reward you with some harder play.
Ditto.

Fans were much more disappointing than the team.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:43 PM   #10
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

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People need to realize this is our head coach's SECOND YEAR of EVER being a head coach. We hired a General Manager within THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

I know we all want to win and the losing starts to piss you off but jesus fucking christ what did you expect to see out there today???????

All we've talked about all off season is "It's okay to lose some games as long as we look improved." DID WE NOT LOOK IMPROVED??

Yes, there were still blown plays and things to fix but thats expected when you're REBUILDING. We knew we couldn't fix the entire team in one off season but I saw DEFINITE improvement.

It's disgusting to see some of the "fans" on here throwing in the towel when iBADt's week 1. Have some faith and support your fucking team for once and maybe they'll reward you with some harder play.
Pretty much agree with this:
But feeling a bit......pissy
Good Cousins mostly. Get the int's in check and we have a QB
Oline basically stiffed and RAN on BIG maybe the best D-line in Pro ball
Pushed their ass around. Suh....who?
Defense...Whoa shit, we have one.....secondary a maybe..please stay healthy Dhall
Sacks with no blitz? WTF???
ALMO...WOW!

BAD
F...n penalties.
O and D catch the damn ball!!!
Picks....enough said
Teams will b the death of me!!! F... Me!!!

As S2 has said fans should b ashamed...we are in FULL rebuild mode and trying to find which way is up. We had more good than bad today and some REAL good
As Gruden said, needs to be tuned up and cleaner, BUT we competed.
I Really wanted to win that game as we had them on their heels and we let them come back. It hurt, but I'm ok with it and happy about the future.
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

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People need to realize this is our head coach's SECOND YEAR of EVER being a head coach. We hired a General Manager within THIS CALENDAR YEAR.





I know we all want to win and the losing starts to piss you off but jesus fucking christ what did you expect to see out there today???????





All we've talked about all off season is "It's okay to lose some games as long as we look improved." DID WE NOT LOOK IMPROVED??





Yes, there were still blown plays and things to fix but thats expected when you're REBUILDING. We knew we couldn't fix the entire team in one off season but I saw DEFINITE improvement.





It's disgusting to see some of the "fans" on here throwing in the towel when it's week 1. Have some faith and support your fucking team for once and maybe they'll reward you with some harder play.


This!!!!!!! Some of you guys need to chill the f out..
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:51 PM   #12
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

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People need to realize this is our head coach's SECOND YEAR of EVER being a head coach. We hired a General Manager within THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

I know we all want to win and the losing starts to piss you off but jesus fucking christ what did you expect to see out there today???????

All we've talked about all off season is "It's okay to lose some games as long as we look improved." DID WE NOT LOOK IMPROVED??

Yes, there were still blown plays and things to fix but thats expected when you're REBUILDING. We knew we couldn't fix the entire team in one off season but I saw DEFINITE improvement.

It's disgusting to see some of the "fans" on here throwing in the towel when it's week 1. Have some faith and support your fucking team for once and maybe they'll reward you with some harder play.
I agree with 100% of this post. Couldn't have said, any of, this better myself Sevier.
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

Good
gave up 10 point with a new d coach
o-line did well against a very good d-line
KC did pretty well even losing a D-Jax
Still playing hard

Bad
Not scoring more
lack of quality depth
Penalties


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Special Team gave up 10 points
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Re: Good, bad and ugly. Post game reactions vs Dolphins

I think the team is better, especially on defense. I just don't think our HC is showing any sign of getting "it".
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I think the team is better, especially on defense. I just don't think our HC is showing any sign of getting "it".
What about today's game led you to that conclusion?
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