Official 2013 NCAA College Football Thread

[donofriose]

It wasn't a fumble. They did not show the other angle on that clip.



Even if it was a fumble, you say it was a fumble then blow the play dead. You don't just look around and not make a decision.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

It wasn't a fumble. They did not show the other angle on that clip.



Even if it was a fumble, you say it was a fumble then blow the play dead. You don't just look around and not make a decision.

Watching it live, I never saw him take the knee. Obviously in that one shot you can see him taking it, but you shouldn't need/ have to look at replay for a player taking a knee. Why the kid with 19 seconds left decided to take the worlds fastest kneel down, I don't know. He confused the ref. one isn't sure if he took the knee, the other thinks he fumbled like I did, the other saw him take the knee. If the QB takes a normal kneel down like any other QB there isn't any confusion.

And if the refs blow the whistle to talk it over, you give Wisconsin a chance to kick a field goal and piss off ASU, then it's ASU blaming the refs for losing.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Watching it live, I never saw him take the knee. Obviously in that one shot you can see him taking it, but you shouldn't need/ have to look at replay for a player taking a knee. Why the kid with 19 seconds left decided to take the worlds fastest kneel down, I don't know. He confused the ref. one isn't sure if he took the knee, the other thinks he fumbled like I did, the other saw him take the knee. If the QB takes a normal kneel down like any other QB there isn't any confusion.

And if the refs blow the whistle to talk it over, you give Wisconsin a chance to kick a field goal and piss off ASU, then it's ASU blaming the refs for losing.

It doesn't matter if it wasn't a normal knee down. He took a knee. Plus in college football you actually don't have to take a knee. The rule actually is "When a ball carrier simulates placing his knee on the ground."

The problem I have is the refs did nothing. They did not decide on the call and just looked around and told Wisconsin to wait before they were allowed to snap the ball.
I would have no problem if the Refs said he fumbled and it was ASU ball. They obviously would have reviewed it and then given the ball back to Wisconsin.
Again, the problem was the refs did nothing and did not allow Wisconsin to snap the ball. They let the ASU player kill the ball and lay on the ball for almost 10 seconds (which is a delay of game penalty), and just stood there.

Just make call.

The refs prevented a chance for Wisconsin to win the game. That is why the Pac-12 reprimanded the refs immediately and said:

"After a thorough review, we have determined that the officials fell short of the high standard in which Pac-12 games should be managed. We will continue to work with all our officials to ensure this type of situation never occurs again."