Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Giantone

it's not , maybe OC or DC .....Coughlin is there until he wants to leave .Record for starters in one season is 55 ,Giants have had 47this year add in a death of a relative (brother) and it's been an overall bad season .All teams have injuries this year they just could not get around them .

All the credit in the world to Coughlin for coaching his ass off when the playoffs weren't a realistic possibility to maintain some level of respectability for something less than $6 million/year in salary. Takes a lot of mental toughness to pull your team out of the crapper.

Someone less tough may have taken the salary and quit on his team. Can't think of anyone though.

[Hijinx]

I would rather get a coordinator from an NFL team over a college HC. Someone like Darrell Brevell, Vic Fangio, Greg Roman, or Jay Gruden.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

I would rather get a coordinator from an NFL team over a college HC. Someone like Darrell Brevell, Vic Fangio, Greg Roman, or Jay Gruden.

I think it's just a sign of the times that all the coaching talent is in the college ranks. The NFL pool is more limited than I can remember in the past.

I think Jay Gruden is talented enough as a coach to win as an HC in the NFL, but he's not a home run hire by any means. For a coach like him building a strong staff will be important. There are guys in the college ranks with big personalities that will come in and win right away at the pro level like Chip Kelly is. I just don't think those guys want this job.

[diehardskin2982]

I voted Kevin Sumlin. My hope is Ken Whisenhut, Russ Grimm as OC, and Ken Norton Jr. as DC. Whisenhut has Philip Rivers looking like an all-star again. Ken Norton could help build a Seattle styled defense.

[skinsfan69]

What is the deal with everyone wanting these college coaches? What have any of them proven at the NFL level?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What is the deal with everyone wanting these college coaches? What have any of them proven at the NFL level?

Shanahan won 100+ games prior to coming here. He's terrible. Only thing that matters is whether you can coach or not. Period.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Shanahan won 100+ games prior to coming here. He's terrible. Only thing that matters is whether you can coach or not. Period.

Finally I agree with you on something Gtripp. What is funny is that goes for all the coaches, Defense, Special Teams, etc.

It doesn't take 10 weeks for NFL players to adapt to a special teams system. There is only so many ways you can cover a punt, or kickoff.

Burns, Shanahans, Haslet... Let them all go. Build around RG3, Alfmo, and some other bright spots. Gettis actually looked good today in his limited play time.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Shanahan won 100+ games prior to coming here. He's terrible. Only thing that matters is whether you can coach or not. Period.

If you win 2 super bowls, chances are you can coach. NOW, picking good staff and players as a GM is a bit different.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

If you win 2 super bowls, chances are you can coach. NOW, picking good staff and players as a GM is a bit different.

I think that his weak coaching staff was a major problem. No need to go into detail there.

As for the players, there were a number of positions where there was little to be lost by giving someone else a chance to win the job by playing them on Sundays. He should have known that some players play better in games than they do in practice.

Whatever... it's irrelevant now. I'm just trying to look smart.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What is the deal with everyone wanting these college coaches? What have any of them proven at the NFL level?

I agree, maybe we can get proven guys like that former rookie of the year who played for the bills and also has some coaching experience with the Saints and Rams, I think his name is Haslett. I hear John Elways coach will be free at the end of the year. He is two rings!!!

All joking aside, I would prefer a HC with NFL experience but too often you see a coaching tree guy get a job and they basically run a system they've been trained in and don't have the ability to adapt it to fit their roster or their opponent. Half the NFL is running a version of the Bill Walsh west coast offense including the Redskins.

I just don't want to hire the next great system guy with a good resume like Jay Gruden. Btw, Grudens Bengals have never finished better than 11th on offense. They are currently ranked 10th. I don't see anything that Jumps out and says next great HC.

Great head coaches are harder to find than Franchise QB or Shutdown Corners. If it was easy every team would have one.
Most owners take what they perceive as the sure bet and hire a coordinators from a successful coaching staff with Belichick being the most recent and it has backfired. See Romeo Crennel, Al Groh, Josh McDaniel, Nick Saban and Eric Mangini. For decades owners have been hiring assistants from the Sid Gilman and Bill Walsh Coaching tree, half the league is from the Walsh tree...
Unfortunately the game has evolved and the gilman tree died when Vermiel and Gibbs retired. The walsh tree is struggling with only Denver doing well but thats mostly because of Manning. Sean Payton was an assistant under Bill Walsh guys, Ray Rhodes and Jim Fassell. He also coached under Parcells. Payton is successful today because he did it his way. He is expanding what he learned.

Who ever we get, I hope he is an innovator and does it his way, not a guy that is hoping for a 10 win season every year by doing what the great ones used to do.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What is the deal with everyone wanting these college coaches? What have any of them proven at the NFL level?

I'm with u , I like Shaw because he has NFL exp

[FRPLG]

Who says we don't hire a more traditional GM first?

[jamf]

that was a shitty rant, sorry.

I like to keep it simple.

Nothing tells me Jay Gruden is a good HC other than his last name. His offenses have never finished top 5 or have been considered dominant. I just don't want another guy running the same shit everyone else is running.

If I had to pick someone on this pool, I vote Sumlin.
My original pick was Todd Bowles but that just me hoping for an original Redskin to return us to glory.

[jamf]

I like Shaw but it goes against my rant against the bill walsh tree.

[Bucket]

Just because Briles is a college coach. Doesn't mean he is going to bring his offense to the NFL. It's more of a philosophy than the offense itself.

Chip Kelly and Harbaugh both don't run the same offenses they did in college.

Only reason I wouldn't want Briles here is because people will be flooding RG3 with questions in the off season about how much influence he has on the franchise, blah blah blah. When everyone knows he's probably the ONLY way we get Briles in Washington. Even though Briles is well deserving of his shot in the NFL.