Where are the apologies?

[That Guy]

again, NO ONE knows for sure what ramsey would or would not have done because he didn't actually play the game.

we won, brunell pulled it out, let's see how the seahawk's game goes.

[PFunk26]

I have one question in all this...I don't know if it's the playcalling or Brunell but I was watching Brunells head on alot of plays and just about every one he went straight to the back coming out of the backfield? I highly doubt that is his first read every play but sure enough it looked like that was the first place he looked? Anyone else notice this or am I crazy? If it takes being down with no time for Brunell to look down field I'm very disappointed in him as a starter. If I'm alone in this and all wrong I apologize.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by PFunk26

I have one question in all this...I don't know if it's the playcalling or Brunell but I was watching Brunells head on alot of plays and just about every one he went straight to the back coming out of the backfield? I highly doubt that is his first read every play but sure enough it looked like that was the first place he looked? Anyone else notice this or am I crazy? If it takes being down with no time for Brunell to look down field I'm very disappointed in him as a starter. If I'm alone in this and all wrong I apologize.

You have to wonder if the back is the first option. Because Ramsey did the same thing. Ive been complaining about this since the begining of last year. The QBs arent as bad as they look, most people here have to agree with that. But after the snap the first thing they try to do is hit the back, or throw a screen. Which is even more incentive for the defense to keep 8 in the box. We have to throw downfield a lot more just to get the respect of the defense, and with Moss' speed ya never know.

[Defensewins]

I accept your apology. You are wrong.

[illdefined]

no, you're not wrong. If Brunell sees or senses a big blitz coming (which they always show, like Williams does) he tends to check down super quick to the safety valves. its the safe play, but doesn't get alot of yards. reinforces the notion of him playing "dink/dunk".

[MTK]

You can refer to whatever you want. Just because I may not agree with all the second guessing and nitpicking doesn't mean it's not allowed. I'm just disagreeing with your view, just like what goes on here all the time.

There are no hard "rules", you should know that by now, illdefined.

[illdefined]

cool cool.

was just making sure because last year seems to matter when it comes to Ramsey, just not Brunell.

[railcon56]

I think no matter what.... i will say those were two of the best passes i have even seen in my life !! And he does deserve all the credit in the world for that...

[offiss]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I think no matter what.... i will say those were two of the best passes i have even seen in my life !! And he does deserve all the credit in the world for that...

After seeing the replay of the 70 yarder, more than a few times, if you get the right angle you will see Brunell actually under threw that ball, in the highlight you can see Moss slowing up, but it worked, Moss is so smooth it's very hard to notice full speed.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by offiss

After seeing the replay of the 70 yarder, more than a few times, if you get the right angle you will see Brunell actually under threw that ball, in the highlight you can see Moss slowing up, but it worked, Moss is so smooth it's very hard to notice full speed.

So are you saying it wasn't a good throw then? Looked pretty good to me. Can't understand why it's so hard for you to give Brunell some credit.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

In Brunell's defense, it is far wiser for a quarterback to slide. I don't think a quarterback should try to pound out the extra yards. Quarterbacks are far too valuable to a franchise to risk a major injury for 1 extra yard.

[MTK]

If you watch the replay of the 1st TD pass you can see Brunell actually overthrows Moss and he has to accelerate to catch up to it, actually it's really cool to see how much ground he covers so quickly. Moss has some serious jets.

[jbcjr14]

In Brunell's defense the receivers were not open at all in the first 3 qtrs. They just were not getting open. Whether that's poor route running or poor QB play or even good D by the Cowboys. There was only one other opportunity to hit a big play in the game and I believe Brunell was sacked. Alot of work to do with this offense, but it is showing some signs of life with those late TD's.

[That Guy]

I never said i read your mind or that I knew your intentions behind writing that post, and frankly i don't care. If you don't think it contains implicit antagonism then maybe you should re-read it.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Gentlemen:

I knew with certainty that some people would be angry with my original posting. I hoped that others might be able to look back on all the "can anyone trust Joe Gibbs now" threads and wonder if the things they saw in the Monday night game might run counter to the assertions made there.

Obviously, not many folks here can or want to do that. That's their choice not mine.

Does winning on Monday night cure all the offensive woes of the team? Of course not. All you had to do was watch the first 55 minutes of Monday night's game to know that this team still needs a lot of improvement on that side of the ball. But winning is what the games are about. Getting that win is far more important than any sidebar issue of player/coach interactions or anything of that ilk.

As I said in a post about 3 months ago when Patrick Ramsey was the #1 QB and it looked as if he would stay there for the year, he needed to improve in about five or six areas of the game - - unless of course the Redskins won the NFC East. If the Redskins win the NFC East, then it will not matter if they have the 24th rated offense or their QB has the lowest rating of any division-winning QB since they kept that stat. Because the bottom line is winning. Stats are much more important to losers than they are to winners.