Our Secondary

NC_Skins · 09-23-2014, 12:42 PM

It's our front 7 that is going to be the issue. IF they can generate pressure, the back won't matter as much. If they can't, we are up shit creek. This past week they generated little to no pressure on Foles with several of the Eagles starting OL out. That's a issue.

CrustyRedskin · 09-23-2014, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Orakpo? Isn't he that tall, bearded guy from Texas? Haven't seen him around for quite awhile. What's he doing these days?

Him look like Tarzan, play like Jane.

Defensewins · 09-23-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Orakpo? Isn't he that tall, bearded guy from Texas? Haven't seen him around for quite awhile. What's he doing these days?

Wasn't Haslett going to unleash him to rush the passer this year?
According the Orakpo fan club, he was going to be a different player this year. I think the words were "you will see...I can't wait".
All kidding aside, I have been the biggest critic of Orakpo in the past for not keeping contain and gap responsibility when he wildly rushed the passer in the past. The ironic part is he has improved on that this year. Seriously, I have been impressed with him improving on that weakness he had, but he has not yet gotten the sacks yet. It is a long season - he still has time to get his sacks. .

Lilman52 · 09-23-2014, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Orakpo? Isn't he that tall, bearded guy from Texas? Haven't seen him around for quite awhile. What's he doing these days?

Brian Orakpo has torn ligament, will play with cast | ProFootballTalk

Well this should help him out some.... SMH. Can't catch a break for this defense

over the mountain · 09-23-2014, 10:26 AM

is not hearing ryan clark's name called a lot a good thing or bad thing? the guy seems invisible to me .. which may be a good thing for a safety.

KI Skins Fan · 09-23-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

is not hearing ryan clark's name called a lot a good thing or bad thing? the guy seems invisible to me .. which may be a good thing for a safety.

Ryan Clark knows what he's doing. He recognizes the play in front of him. Alas, he has lost at least a step. Against Philly, he knew what to do but he just couldn't always get there to make the plays. Still, he's a short-term upgrade over what we had at that position.

skinsfan69 · 09-23-2014, 10:41 AM

I'm really looking forward to seeing Breeland out there. He's shown he belongs. And Tracy Porter? WTF dude!!! Has he even practiced???

over the mountain · 09-23-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm really looking forward to seeing Breeland out there. He's shown he belongs. And Tracy Porter? WTF dude!!! Has he even practiced???

i think gruden said in his presser that Porter was practicing this week and may play.

KI Skins Fan · 09-23-2014, 12:22 PM

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i think gruden said in his presser that Porter was practicing this week and may play.

That's not exactly a thrill since he looked like crap in the very short time he played in preseason.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 09-23-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm really looking forward to seeing Breeland out there. He's shown he belongs. And Tracy Porter? WTF dude!!! Has he even practiced???

No he hasn't and I still don't understand why he was signed but I love Breeland, loved him in college, I think Breeland and Amerson will be a good tandem for us, for the rest of the season.

Meks · 09-23-2014, 12:52 PM

They had pressure, philly just gameplanned to get the ball out in 3-4 seconds 85% of the time. I dont care who u are its hard to sack a guy that fast. .. we beat foles up a decent amount, little to no pressure is a near sighted remark

SirLK26 · 09-23-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

They had pressure, philly just gameplanned to get the ball out in 3-4 seconds 85% of the time. I dont care who u are its hard to sack a guy that fast. .. we beat foles up a decent amount, little to no pressure is a near sighted remark

To go along with this, Keim says we sent an extra rusher on only 15 pass attempts against the Eagles.

NC_Skins · 09-23-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

They had pressure, philly just gameplanned to get the ball out in 3-4 seconds 85% of the time. I dont care who u are its hard to sack a guy that fast. .. we beat foles up a decent amount, little to no pressure is a near sighted remark

They did? They only had 2 QB hits the whole day and 0 sacks. ZERO. Actually, 3-4 seconds is a lifetime in terms of a QB holding the ball. If they are holding over 2.7 seconds, it's too long. (may be long even then)

Fast releases for Peyton Manning, Tom Brady have propelled their NFL careers - The Denver Post

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...time-to-throw/

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...time-to-throw/

Even if he was getting the ball out fast (which he wasn't), it's up to the coach to counter that. Sounds like Haslett got out-coached yet again. THAT, I can buy.

DYoungJelly · 09-23-2014, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

They had pressure, philly just gameplanned to get the ball out in 3-4 seconds 85% of the time. I dont care who u are its hard to sack a guy that fast. .. we beat foles up a decent amount, little to no pressure is a near sighted remark

I don't know about the 3 to 4 seconds but totally agree otherwise.

Their play calling was a lot of quick passes and reads.

Our pass rush with 4 could always improve but they were definitely game planning for it.

jamf · 09-23-2014, 01:15 PM

Breeland is going to have some growing pains but I'm fine with having a young guy out there. Im just worried his lack of speed will be exposed.

I hate RAK. doesn't show up in NFC east games. I would rather have Rob Jackson back.

09-23-2014, 12:42 PM	#1
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,587	Re: Our Secondary It's our front 7 that is going to be the issue. IF they can generate pressure, the back won't matter as much. If they can't, we are up shit creek. This past week they generated little to no pressure on Foles with several of the Eagles starting OL out. That's a issue. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

09-23-2014, 10:26 AM	#5
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Our Secondary is not hearing ryan clark's name called a lot a good thing or bad thing? the guy seems invisible to me .. which may be a good thing for a safety.

09-23-2014, 10:41 AM	#7
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Our Secondary I'm really looking forward to seeing Breeland out there. He's shown he belongs. And Tracy Porter? WTF dude!!! Has he even practiced???

09-23-2014, 12:52 PM	#11
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 40 Posts: 5,813	Re: Our Secondary They had pressure, philly just gameplanned to get the ball out in 3-4 seconds 85% of the time. I dont care who u are its hard to sack a guy that fast. .. we beat foles up a decent amount, little to no pressure is a near sighted remark __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

09-23-2014, 01:15 PM	#15
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,349	Re: Our Secondary Breeland is going to have some growing pains but I'm fine with having a young guy out there. Im just worried his lack of speed will be exposed. I hate RAK. doesn't show up in NFC east games. I would rather have Rob Jackson back.

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