Your First round pick for the skins?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I would really like us to shift to the Seattle base defense. The 3-4 is not working here IMO

The 3-4 requires a great Nose Tackle to achieve dominance, and there are very few athletic 340 pound men on the planet.

[Hijinx]

I'd say the best thing to do is get a safety 1st round just because there is more depth at O-line in this draft than safety. I think Collins is like a 8-11 pick, so maybe we could even move back and still get him. If you do that you could use the extra picks to move up to late 1st round for an OL. Being a 1st rounder means an extra year on the rookie contract.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

bpa

[Lotus]

We likely will have a top 6 pick. You don't use such a pick on the OL except for LT, and we already have one of those. Paying two LT salaries is a cap buster. So IMO we don't draft a tackle right away.

Alternatively:
Landon Collins, the Alabama safety as folks have discussed

Or:
Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor. Feed the defensive front.

Or:
trade back into the later first, picking up a second rounder, then:
late first: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
early second: AJ Cann, guard, South Carolina
late second (from trade): Derron Smith, FS, Fresno St.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

We likely will have a top 6 pick. You don't use such a pick on the OL except for LT, and we already have one of those. Paying two LT salaries is a cap buster. So IMO we don't draft a tackle right away.

So what's the plan? Move down in the first round and then pick an OL?

Dallas has three young 1st Round picks playing on their OL - and they are good. We need to pick OL in the first round, too.

I don't want any more shitty Redskins third round OL picks. Hell, we should give away our third round pick for what good it does us from year to year.

I don't trust this FO to pick an OL in any round other than the first. I want a bonafide consensus stud so our FO doesn't have to think too much.

[SFREDSKIN]

A 1st round pick doesn't guarantee anything, many busts out there.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

So what's the plan? Move down in the first round and then pick an OL?

Dallas has three young 1st Round picks playing on their OL - and they are good. We need to pick OL in the first round, too.

I don't want any more shitty Redskins third round OL picks. Hell, we should give away our third round pick for what good it does us from year to year.

I don't trust this FO to pick an OL in any round other than the first. I want a bonafide consensus stud so our FO doesn't have to think too much.

How about this? Leave the draft with a first round tackle and the first guard off the board:

trade back into the later first, picking up a second rounder, then:
late first: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
early second: AJ Cann, guard, South Carolina
late second (from trade): Derron Smith, FS, Fresno St.

40% of the OL overhauled before even the 40th pick

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by Lotus

How about this? Leave the draft with a first round tackle and the first guard off the board:

trade back into the later first, picking up a second rounder, then:
late first: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
early second: AJ Cann, guard, South Carolina
late second (from trade): Derron Smith, FS, Fresno St.

40% of the OL overhauled before even the 40th pick

Like that idea but I think we could get more for trading down from #5 pick most likely than a late 2nd round pick.

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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

How about this? Leave the draft with a first round tackle and the first guard off the board:

trade back into the later first, picking up a second rounder, then:
late first: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
early second: AJ Cann, guard, South Carolina
late second (from trade): Derron Smith, FS, Fresno St.

40% of the OL overhauled before even the 40th pick

I would love to see that!

[SouperMeister]

Take the best lineman available, offensive or defensive. The Skins have invested fewer high draft choices on linemen of all teams in the NFC East, so it's no wonder that the team sucks in the trenches.

[diehardskin2982]

If Phillip Thomas is starting to develop and if we can count on him, we can draft Derron Smith in the second. They have experience playing with each other. That will allow us to use the first rounder elsewhere.

[British Andy]

If Leonard Williams is still there at say 5 then that must be a consideration surely? We will probably have a new DC and so it might be a case of "okay which young player do you want to build your future defence around?"

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by British Andy

If Leonard Williams is still there at say 5 then that must be a consideration surely? We will probably have a new DC and so it might be a case of "okay which young player do you want to build your future defence around?"

I think he will be a top 3 pick, but yes I'd take him at 5 over everyone

[skinsfan69]

In 2011, didn't we trade out of the 10th pick and move down? How'd that work out? I think JJ Watt was sitting there at that spot and we lost out on that pick. Not a fan of trading back in the first round. Get the best player. Hopefully that's a dominant player. Landon Collins reminds me of Landry, great hitter, great player in the box, but can he cover Zac Ertz? Shit, that dude had like 15 catches yesterday. Not sure Collins is that guy.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

In 2011, didn't we trade out of the 10th pick and move down? How'd that work out? I think JJ Watt was sitting there at that spot and we lost out on that pick. Not a fan of trading back in the first round. Get the best player. Hopefully that's a dominant player. Landon Collins reminds me of Landry, great hitter, great player in the box, but can he cover Zac Ertz? Shit, that dude had like 15 catches yesterday. Not sure Collins is that guy.

The problem with taking the best player available is the Redskins cannot tell who he is.....New England has built their team by trading back