How to fix the Skins' Defense

Evilgrin · 11-09-2015, 05:24 PM

Keenan Robinson is playing hurt, and he gets hurt too much. We really need alot of linebackers.

JPPT1974 · 11-09-2015, 05:27 PM

At least give credit for Robinson for playing hurt.

skinsfaninok · 11-09-2015, 06:31 PM

Defense started the season number 1 after week 4. Injuries have killed us and teams have also stopped our offense so the defense is out there alot. Barry has done ok with what he has. We have no pass rusher at all, smith may turn Into the guy but Kerrigan has fallen off fast this yr. Does he even have a sack this yr? I'm seriously asking

Hog1 · 11-09-2015, 07:01 PM

Another off-season of Scott..........

Bucket · 11-09-2015, 08:40 PM

Our ILB had 0 tackles when the opposing team ran 30x.

Ummmmm. Yea

rocnrik · 11-09-2015, 08:50 PM

Why the heck did we get BARRY as DC ?? was he not the DC of the 0-16 lions?? and if he did not feel like he was failing this team why would he stand outside the locker room and tell the players to forget about this game??? this is the NFL not some div 3 college team..so now we got coaches saying its okay to lose..REALLY ???? I'm sorry that was weak ..Am i the only one that feels this way?

FRPLG · 11-09-2015, 09:21 PM

Talent level is low. No actual impact players. We have a few good fit guys but you have to surround those types with playmakers.

DynamiteRave · 11-09-2015, 09:49 PM

I really like Keenan Robinson, but he has no one to support him on the inside. Riley is garbage.

And don't get me started on the secondary. I like Breeland but he's inconsistent. Culliver has been hot garbage all year. What the hell did we bring him here for?

Alvin Walton · 11-10-2015, 07:25 AM

You're not going to "fix" anything in the middle of the season after the trade deadline with this many injuries.

DYoungJelly · 11-09-2015, 10:38 PM

Pay Jim Schwartz. Go 4-3.

Chico23231 · 11-10-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Pay Jim Schwartz. Go 4-3.

When we hire Sean Payton as the HC, Schwartz would be the logical choice as the DC

Schneed10 · 11-10-2015, 09:16 AM

Going to a one-gap scheme along the defensive line is causing issues - the plus is the linemen shoot gaps and penetrate to disrupt running plays in the backfield and get additional pressure on the passer. Two problems with that:

1) our D line isn't penetrating often enough lately

2) it means guards and centers are getting to the second level much more easily as our line shoots by, and thus our middle LBs are getting blocked. It seems to me if you're going to run a successful 1-gap like Barry is running, you need your MLBs to be athletic enough and quick enough to beat those guards and centers to the spots. Right now Robinson and Riley look too slow.

The one-gap puts the onus on the middle LBs to fight through the wash. Robinson and Riley looked better under Haslett when the line was two-gapping and keeping them clean to run to the ball. Now they're getting exposed for being fairly mediocre (in Robinson's case) and downright inadequate (in Riley's case).

If we're going to run a one-gap we need a stud MLB in there.

Also what does Trent Murphy even do?

Schneed10 · 11-10-2015, 09:18 AM

But guys, putting the defense's inability to stop the run on the offense is absolutely asinine. Teams are not running on us because they have a lead, they're running on us because we give up 5 yards a carry. That comes down to winning at the line of scrimmage and getting to the ball carrier, which we're not doing.

Schneed10 · 11-10-2015, 09:20 AM

PS Barry ran a talent-less Lions defense several years ago. They ranked 32nd in the NFL.

He's not adding much value here either.

Still can't believe we passed on Wade Phillips.

mredskins · 11-10-2015, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schneed10

PS Barry ran a talent-less Lions defense several years ago. They ranked 32nd in the NFL.

He's not adding much value here either.

Still can't believe we passed on Wade Phillips.

I have to believe Wade passed on us.

11-09-2015, 05:24 PM	#1
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Keenan Robinson is playing hurt, and he gets hurt too much. We really need alot of linebackers. __________________ Bruce Allen “We’re winning off the field,” Redskins #2 In Revenue Per Year!

11-09-2015, 05:27 PM	#2
JPPT1974 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 485	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense At least give credit for Robinson for playing hurt. __________________ *October Falls and Skies!*

11-09-2015, 06:31 PM	#3
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,178	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Defense started the season number 1 after week 4. Injuries have killed us and teams have also stopped our offense so the defense is out there alot. Barry has done ok with what he has. We have no pass rusher at all, smith may turn Into the guy but Kerrigan has fallen off fast this yr. Does he even have a sack this yr? I'm seriously asking __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-09-2015, 07:01 PM	#4
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Another off-season of Scott.......... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

11-09-2015, 08:40 PM	#5
Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Our ILB had 0 tackles when the opposing team ran 30x. Ummmmm. Yea __________________ I need something to cheer about Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

11-09-2015, 08:50 PM	#6
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,786	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Why the heck did we get BARRY as DC ?? was he not the DC of the 0-16 lions?? and if he did not feel like he was failing this team why would he stand outside the locker room and tell the players to forget about this game??? this is the NFL not some div 3 college team..so now we got coaches saying its okay to lose..REALLY ???? I'm sorry that was weak ..Am i the only one that feels this way?

11-09-2015, 09:21 PM	#7
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Talent level is low. No actual impact players. We have a few good fit guys but you have to surround those types with playmakers.

11-09-2015, 09:49 PM	#8
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense I really like Keenan Robinson, but he has no one to support him on the inside. Riley is garbage. And don't get me started on the secondary. I like Breeland but he's inconsistent. Culliver has been hot garbage all year. What the hell did we bring him here for? __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

11-10-2015, 07:25 AM	#9
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense You're not going to "fix" anything in the middle of the season after the trade deadline with this many injuries. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

11-09-2015, 10:38 PM	#10
DYoungJelly The Starter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,300	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Pay Jim Schwartz. Go 4-3.

11-10-2015, 09:16 AM	#12
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense Going to a one-gap scheme along the defensive line is causing issues - the plus is the linemen shoot gaps and penetrate to disrupt running plays in the backfield and get additional pressure on the passer. Two problems with that: 1) our D line isn't penetrating often enough lately 2) it means guards and centers are getting to the second level much more easily as our line shoots by, and thus our middle LBs are getting blocked. It seems to me if you're going to run a successful 1-gap like Barry is running, you need your MLBs to be athletic enough and quick enough to beat those guards and centers to the spots. Right now Robinson and Riley look too slow. The one-gap puts the onus on the middle LBs to fight through the wash. Robinson and Riley looked better under Haslett when the line was two-gapping and keeping them clean to run to the ball. Now they're getting exposed for being fairly mediocre (in Robinson's case) and downright inadequate (in Riley's case). If we're going to run a one-gap we need a stud MLB in there. Also what does Trent Murphy even do? __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

11-10-2015, 09:18 AM	#13
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense But guys, putting the defense's inability to stop the run on the offense is absolutely asinine. Teams are not running on us because they have a lead, they're running on us because we give up 5 yards a carry. That comes down to winning at the line of scrimmage and getting to the ball carrier, which we're not doing. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

11-10-2015, 09:20 AM	#14
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: How to fix the Skins' Defense PS Barry ran a talent-less Lions defense several years ago. They ranked 32nd in the NFL. He's not adding much value here either. Still can't believe we passed on Wade Phillips. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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