Cornelius and Co

#56fanatic · 10-14-2005, 12:03 PM

In addition, our corners are going to need some help. Springs is probably not going to play. So we will need some pressure on the QB, or they are going to get eaten alive.

FRPLG · 10-14-2005, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

why not use arrington as a D-end?

Who? Oh our 5th string LB! Why would we play our 5th string LB at end?

firstdown · 10-14-2005, 12:39 PM

Maybe teams have just figured out by watching game film how to stop our D from getting pressure on the QB.

hurrykaine · 10-14-2005, 01:01 PM

Cornelius lit it up for exactly one year in NY too, and then was mediocre after that. I hope what people are saying about him being ineffective due to double teams is true. Cuz then, the answer would be to draft another solid DT, or get one in free agency.

Daseal · 10-14-2005, 01:40 PM

Here's my take on it, our defense isn't applying the pressure from other positions like we were last year. We often sent DB's or LB's to blitz which caused problems to the offensive lines schemes. Now we're sending pretty much the front 4 on every play and they are getting blocked. Our defensive line last year was never exactly what you'd call great, but they DID THEIR JOB in the scheme. They were there to stop the run and try to confuse/take up space of the blockers to let our blitzers came free, this led to them getting more sacks. This year we're playing what seems to be a completely different scheme where we dont get a lot of pressure but seem to force them to 3-outs.

I think that our Dline has good talent to play the run, but not to pass the rusher. Either way, I'll take #5 overall.

dmek25 · 10-14-2005, 02:37 PM

i gree.#96 might be a victim of his own sucess.maybe alittle bit of game planning against him.and forget about noble,he is at best mediocre.i love j salavea

redhogs96 · 10-15-2005, 11:14 AM

hey guys i live in wisconson, i need radio station i can here the skin.

Kevikazi · 10-15-2005, 11:18 AM

We only played 4 games. If C Griffin gets a sack in every other game, he will have 6 sacks for this year as well. Everyone was raving about C Griffin last year and now some people think he's mediocre at best? To quote Nick Saban...."Give him a chance!!! Give him a chance!!!!"

skindogger47 · 10-15-2005, 12:16 PM

Griffen is raw and has played admirably this year. It seems like he is the only lineman that makes tackles. But I really miss Ron Warner, I think he was a great spark to our team when he came in. Does anybody know why we cut him? Other than to save a roster spot for a Pro Bowl benchwarmer? I mean how warm can you keep a bench anyway, really.

jamf · 10-15-2005, 07:54 PM

last year we used clemons(the lb) as a passrush DE and it worked well. why arent we using him(or lavar) in the same way

we are playing some zone defence, i would think it would make more sense to drop a DE who is actually a LB in coverage.

I hate to question Saint G-Dub. but we need to pressure the QB

Defensewins · 10-16-2005, 11:18 AM

Ted Washington is more than Block absorbing DT. He is regularly an NFL leader in recorded solo tackles for a DT. Something Noble is not.
Washington had 71 solo tackles for Buffalo in 1996 and 61 in 1997. For a DT/NT that is a large amount.
Noble, on the other hand had a career high 35 in 2000 for the Cowboys. Other than that year he has had low numbers in his short injury filled career.

Don't get me wrong, I like Noble, he is a stand up guy. But we do not desperately miss him. He is easily replaceable.

10-14-2005, 12:03 PM	#1
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Cornelius and Co In addition, our corners are going to need some help. Springs is probably not going to play. So we will need some pressure on the QB, or they are going to get eaten alive.

10-14-2005, 12:39 PM	#3
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Cornelius and Co Maybe teams have just figured out by watching game film how to stop our D from getting pressure on the QB.

10-14-2005, 01:01 PM	#4
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 52 Posts: 762	Re: Cornelius and Co Cornelius lit it up for exactly one year in NY too, and then was mediocre after that. I hope what people are saying about him being ineffective due to double teams is true. Cuz then, the answer would be to draft another solid DT, or get one in free agency.

10-14-2005, 02:37 PM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Cornelius and Co i gree.#96 might be a victim of his own sucess.maybe alittle bit of game planning against him.and forget about noble,he is at best mediocre.i love j salavea

10-15-2005, 11:14 AM	#7
redhogs96 Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1	Re: Cornelius and Co hey guys i live in wisconson, i need radio station i can here the skin.

10-14-2005, 01:40 PM	#5
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Cornelius and Co Here's my take on it, our defense isn't applying the pressure from other positions like we were last year. We often sent DB's or LB's to blitz which caused problems to the offensive lines schemes. Now we're sending pretty much the front 4 on every play and they are getting blocked. Our defensive line last year was never exactly what you'd call great, but they DID THEIR JOB in the scheme. They were there to stop the run and try to confuse/take up space of the blockers to let our blitzers came free, this led to them getting more sacks. This year we're playing what seems to be a completely different scheme where we dont get a lot of pressure but seem to force them to 3-outs. I think that our Dline has good talent to play the run, but not to pass the rusher. Either way, I'll take #5 overall. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-15-2005, 11:18 AM	#8
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 55 Posts: 187	Re: Cornelius and Co We only played 4 games. If C Griffin gets a sack in every other game, he will have 6 sacks for this year as well. Everyone was raving about C Griffin last year and now some people think he's mediocre at best? To quote Nick Saban...."Give him a chance!!! Give him a chance!!!!"

10-15-2005, 12:16 PM	#9
skindogger47 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 44 Posts: 262	Re: Cornelius and Co Griffen is raw and has played admirably this year. It seems like he is the only lineman that makes tackles. But I really miss Ron Warner, I think he was a great spark to our team when he came in. Does anybody know why we cut him? Other than to save a roster spot for a Pro Bowl benchwarmer? I mean how warm can you keep a bench anyway, really.

10-15-2005, 07:54 PM	#10
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,349	Re: Cornelius and Co last year we used clemons(the lb) as a passrush DE and it worked well. why arent we using him(or lavar) in the same way we are playing some zone defence, i would think it would make more sense to drop a DE who is actually a LB in coverage. I hate to question Saint G-Dub. but we need to pressure the QB

10-16-2005, 11:18 AM	#11
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,765	Re: Cornelius and Co Ted Washington is more than Block absorbing DT. He is regularly an NFL leader in recorded solo tackles for a DT. Something Noble is not. Washington had 71 solo tackles for Buffalo in 1996 and 61 in 1997. For a DT/NT that is a large amount. Noble, on the other hand had a career high 35 in 2000 for the Cowboys. Other than that year he has had low numbers in his short injury filled career. Don't get me wrong, I like Noble, he is a stand up guy. But we do not desperately miss him. He is easily replaceable. Last edited by Defensewins; 10-16-2005 at 01:07 PM.

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