Cards vs Skins Postgame Freakout

[skinsfaninok]

I said 9-7 at the start and I still say 9 wins is what we get. we'll lose to NY last game of season but we'll have the 6 seed already due to the tie.

[htownskinfan]

Been saying since game 4 or 5 I would be shocked if we make playoffs because of the defense,today was no surprise.This game turned out EXACTLY as I predicted in the pregame thread,to quote myself:
"Thats the formula for every game isnt it? I dont see it happening.We dont have a magic pill for the defense thats going to fix it,Johnson has been the best back in the league since he became a starter.If we can get lucky and get some leads and Johnson doesnt get many carries then thats the only way I see us stopping him.
Palmer is old but he's still capable of having a great game,especially against our defense.I wont be shocked if we win by any stretch,but I'm more inclined to go with Az at home in this one.We have to get tds in the red zone,and thats another thing we need a magic pill for,because we dont capitalize when we have those opportunities."

I didnt get to see the game,was driving around town listening to around the nfl on the radio when they cut to the redskins with 3rd and 1 on the goal line and they throw a focking fade!!? WTF,I thought i was going to have an aneurysm I was so focking mad.And I heard gruden saying earlier in the week they werent running enough in the red zone and then they pull that shit.And on top of that we make Carson Palmer look all pro again{which I was expecting,but damn!}I thing he had 104 rating for the game.
With this defense it's going to be hard to make playoffs,then add shitty playcalling in redzone to the list,well

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Welp we really needed that one. Tie is gonna keep us out of the playoffs most likely.

Thank god David Johnson isn't in our division, guy is a beast. He is awesome at getting through tight holes and has an ability for shifty moves within the hole. Twice i saw him perfectly blanketed with coverage...Cravens and Bree...and twice he made great catch for big plays.


Look, playoff teams win that game. On defense we are screwed up front...McC didn't get us help at NT or DE in the offseason and it's killed the team. Everyone knew we needed help going into the season and the moves we made weren't good. Also at the backend of the defense at safety we don't have enough coverage talent. The final td to seal the game it reared its ugly head again with no help over the top. Bruton was a bad free agent signing.

Cousins was just ok today. Of course Kelly ran well but we didn't go to him enough. Mcvay's inability to scheme a balance offensive attack is holding us back especially in the red zone. He's overrated IMO.

Hats off to Carson Palmer today, he was great...Fitzgerald as well.

I think we all have to remember that we're not going the FA route anymore. The FA's that SM is going to sign are journeymen type of guys. He's going to upgrade the defense and the team basically through the draft.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think we all have to remember that we're not going the FA route anymore. The FA's that SM is going to sign are journeymen type of guys. He's going to upgrade the defense and the team basically through the draft.

Free agent route is ok if you have a plan

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think we all have to remember that we're not going the FA route anymore. The FA's that SM is going to sign are journeymen type of guys. He's going to upgrade the defense and the team basically through the draft.

We have kept a few of our own free agents...and I would say that Josh Norman is more than a journeyman. While the draft is where you make your money, I wouldn't say that SM won't sign any impact free agents.

[skinsfaninok]

The tie is gonna play huge for us. If we finish with 9 wins we get in because of it unless Tampa just rolls and wins out. Highly unlikely

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[mooby]

McVay is a great coordinator, but until he gets our 6'2 wideout with jump ball skills healthy he needs to eliminate the fade from the playbook. Jesus f he calls that play at the worst times.

As for scapegoats, I'm going with Trent Williams. I know Lauvao sucked ass today but I feel like T.Will's absence puts a lot of pressure on Lauvao and he looks worse when he doesn't have a guy like T.Will covering his ass. Nsekhe holds his own but I feel like these last 4 weeks have put a harsh spotlight on Lauvao and how bad he is, but we don't notice it as much when T.Will is balling out next to him. Honestly I'm just really disappointed in Trent, gd I am a firm believer in the healing powers of weed as compared to Vicodin/etc. but as a team captain he has to know how valuable he is to the team. After Long and Nsekhe went down they teed off on us, and if T.Will had been here I feel like we would've had a better shot at winning. Honestly I'm pretty glad Trent is back next week but I don't trust him as much anymore, you have to be smart on and off the field these days.

[metalskins]

I was so demoralized after this loss. Honestly, I was in a better mood after the loss on Thanksgiving day than I was after this loss. The Redskins really needed this game, because things are so tight in the NFC, that I'm not sure if 10 wins will get you in. I really look at the rest of this season as every game is, without a doubt, a must win game. I don't think 9 wins gets the Redskins in this year, and you can't count on other teams helping you.

Yesterday's game was a big example of how much we need Jordan Reed, a healthy offensive line, and a better defense. That one play our left tackle goes out, and Cousins gets the ball stripped. Vernon Davis has helped us out this year, but when it comes down to needing a playmaker in these late season games, you need Jordan Reed.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by metalskins

I was so demoralized after this loss. Honestly, I was in a better mood after the loss on Thanksgiving day than I was after this loss. The Redskins really needed this game, because things are so tight in the NFC, that I'm not sure if 10 wins will get you in. I really look at the rest of this season as every game is, without a doubt, a must win game. I don't think 9 wins gets the Redskins in this year, and you can't count on other teams helping you.

Yesterday's game was a big example of how much we need Jordan Reed, a healthy offensive line, and a better defense. That one play our left tackle goes out, and Cousins gets the ball stripped. Vernon Davis has helped us out this year, but when it comes down to needing a playmaker in these late season games, you need Jordan Reed.

U can't rely on Reed though, I hate to say it but he's always hurt. He's an amazing player that when healthy is the best TE in football but he is made of glass. Every time I see him go down I feel like he's hurt. Tough mfer but still. Also we didn't have the best LT in football for 4 games. Remember when that happened and we all said if we go 2-2 without him we are ok? Well we did. Arizona is much better than record shows especially at home. They are loaded on both sides and it showed yesterday. Basically the last Qtr of the season is on us, we have 4 winnable games and if NY clinches the 5 seed they won't even care in week 17. I say we get in barely.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

U can't rely on Reed though, I hate to say it but he's always hurt. He's an amazing player that when healthy is the best TE in football but he is made of glass. Every time I see him go down I feel like he's hurt. Tough mfer but still. Also we didn't have the best LT in football for 4 games. Remember when that happened and we all said if we go 2-2 without him we are ok? Well we did. Arizona is much better than record shows especially at home. They are loaded on both sides and it showed yesterday. Basically the last Qtr of the season is on us, we have 4 winnable games and if NY clinches the 5 seed they won't even care in week 17. I say we get in barely.

Guys like Reed and even ol' Gronk are not going to be 16 game a season guys, because of the way they approach the game. They don't hold back, which is what makes them the best tight ends in football. But, it makes them more, realistically, 10 game a season guys. So, you feel as a coaching staff, if you can squeeze out 10 solid games with these guys, maybe that equates to 10 wins. That's also why Scot McCloughan went out and got Vernon Davis, and why the Patriots picked up the murderer a few years ago.

I have to say though, Ty Nsekhe has held his own in the four games he has had to play for Silverback. I will be glad to see Trent back in the lineup, but I don't think we lost the last two games because we didn't have Trent Williams. I don't think Ty allowed a sack at all. That said, the one play he has to go out is the play Cousins got the stripped sacked, so, yeah, not having Williams or Nsekhe on that play really cost the 'skins.

The good thing is, the Redskins are used to having to win out to make the playoffs. Hopefully they're going to have everyone back and healthy enough to make the run. We will get Williams back, but I think coach Callahan needs to look at working Ty Nsekhe into that lineup, because he's been very valuable for us. Reed will help along the way, but this game serves as a wake up call that this team is going to have to fight tooth and nail if they want to get back in the playoffs this year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Guys like Reed and even ol' Gronk are not going to be 16 game a season guys, because of the way they approach the game. They don't hold back, which is what makes them the best tight ends in football. But, it makes them more, realistically, 10 game a season guys. So, you feel as a coaching staff, if you can squeeze out 10 solid games with these guys, maybe that equates to 10 wins. That's also why Scot McCloughan went out and got Vernon Davis, and why the Patriots picked up the murderer a few years ago.

I have to say though, Ty Nsekhe has held his own in the four games he has had to play for Silverback. I will be glad to see Trent back in the lineup, but I don't think we lost the last two games because we didn't have Trent Williams. I don't think Ty allowed a sack at all. That said, the one play he has to go out is the play Cousins got the stripped sacked, so, yeah, not having Williams or Nsekhe on that play really cost the 'skins.

The good thing is, the Redskins are used to having to win out to make the playoffs. Hopefully they're going to have everyone back and healthy enough to make the run. We will get Williams back, but I think coach Callahan needs to look at working Ty Nsekhe into that lineup, because he's been very valuable for us. Reed will help along the way, but this game serves as a wake up call that this team is going to have to fight tooth and nail if they want to get back in the playoffs this year.

I think we will win out. Something tells me this team has the heart and fight to dig out. Tampa is really our only true concern and they play NO twice. Dallas and Carolina. Like I said though, even getting in I just don't see our defense being able to win a game against Atlanta or Detroit on the road.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Guys like Reed and even ol' Gronk are not going to be 16 game a season guys, because of the way they approach the game. They don't hold back, which is what makes them the best tight ends in football. But, it makes them more, realistically, 10 game a season guys. So, you feel as a coaching staff, if you can squeeze out 10 solid games with these guys, maybe that equates to 10 wins. That's also why Scot McCloughan went out and got Vernon Davis, and why the Patriots picked up the murderer a few years ago.

I have to say though, Ty Nsekhe has held his own in the four games he has had to play for Silverback. I will be glad to see Trent back in the lineup, but I don't think we lost the last two games because we didn't have Trent Williams. I don't think Ty allowed a sack at all. That said, the one play he has to go out is the play Cousins got the stripped sacked, so, yeah, not having Williams or Nsekhe on that play really cost the 'skins.

The good thing is, the Redskins are used to having to win out to make the playoffs. Hopefully they're going to have everyone back and healthy enough to make the run. We will get Williams back, but I think coach Callahan needs to look at working Ty Nsekhe into that lineup, because he's been very valuable for us. Reed will help along the way, but this game serves as a wake up call that this team is going to have to fight tooth and nail if they want to get back in the playoffs this year.

Not sure anyone could have done anything for Lauvao, he really got destroyed on that play.

How long do you think Long will be out?
Sullivan did a pretty good job at center yesterday, didn't he? But I think Long's absence can hurt us.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

That one bull rush that Campbell did to Lauvao was embarrassing. I also said it a billion times in the game-day thread, but for fuck's sake, the third down defense made the game almost unwatchable. Out of all the bad shit the Skins do, it's when they consistently give up third down, it makes my blood boil. Even when it was third and FOREVER, I was confident they would get it. Defense actually played well the first two downs.

[rocnrik]

TWO things that are glaring weakness..#1 REDZONE OFFENSE #2 3RD DOWN DEFENSE ..nothing less nothing more! with the talent on offense this really is more on coaches..the D really is a lack of talent so that is on Scott to get us help. Truth is with these 2 major weakness even if we get to the playoffs we won't win..we have the worst 3rd down D in league! THE WORST! This team making the playoffs would be like showing off your new tricked out car in front of your friends only to have it quit running and you have to pop the hood while your friends are laughing at you..that really is what we have in this team.

[skinsfan69]

Why did Gruden kick a fg to go to 24-23? Did he think the D was actually going to stop their offense? That was dumb as hell.