Need Reasons To Get Excited

[Schneed10]

The Vegas over/under is 7.5

Mediocre is the unbiased assessment of those who know what they're doing. Expectations for 4 wins are as ludicrous as expectations for 12.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by VirgilTibbs

Probably the most unenthusiastic I've been about this team in years. I'm looking for reasons to waste my Sunday's this season but everything seems to point to a long depressing Redskins season. The team has looked terrible in preseason. Factors that kill my optimisim are:

-Oline still not creating holes in running game

-Cousins running for his life making the same stupid mistakes and turnovers to cost us games.

-All of our rbs are either rookies, unreliable, or unproven. And none of them are gamechangers. (By the way Alfred Morris looks great in Dallas)

-We let both Jackson and Garcon go and sign Pryor as our #1 who's been a ghost in 3 preseason games and can't seem to catch the ball. Doctson is a bust until proven otherwise. Jordan Reed is guaranteed to end up on the injury report at least half the season.

-Run defense still suffers with no true impact nose tackle. Phil Taylor out for season. No interior push from the Dline or pressure without blitzing. Expect more rotating barely starter quality guys like Ziggy Hood on the line all season.

-Breeland continues to give up big plays and Josh Norman exposed by elite WRs (AJ Green, Julio Jones etc.)

Jay Gruden/Joe Barry rookie level gameplanning and adjustments.

-Junior Galette........

This script seems all too familiar.

Is it really that bad? Any reason to believe this team is capable of proving me wrong this year?

Joe Barry is gone dude.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by RedskinMike

Joe Barry is gone dude.

Yes, his replacement is also a coordinator that's been fired multiple times. I'll give Manusky a chance (like I have a choice) but his resume doesn't bode well. Especially for a team with minimal defensive talent and several question marks.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by RedskinMike

Joe Barry is gone dude.

Oh man. Thank you.

It's Redskins football and a new year...fuck man, how can u not be excited?

[jamf]

http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/63848-boobs.html

Works for me.

[MTK]

Gruden should get more credit for bringing some stability to the franchise. Given the sad state of affairs before he got here I'll gladly take 9-7 and 8-7-1 as a sign of significant progress.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Gruden should get more credit for bringing some stability to the franchise. Given the sad state of affairs before he got here I'll gladly take 9-7 and 8-7-1 as a sign of significant progress.

Yeah agree, especially with dreck of a defense during those two seasons.

I want to see him break through, get over the hump. Norv was a player's coach, too. I think he got Snydered before we really found out whether he could break through. Based on his head coaching performances at stops since, I think the answer was no all along. But there's this nagging thing in the back of my mind - is Gruden a little too lax?

The constant turnovers and penalties that plagued the Norv teams had an undisciplined feel about them. Is our tendency to start games slow, and our tendency to lose in week 1, a sign that the coach needs to instill more discipline and urgency? Can we be a proactive team, rather than one that reacts to being punched in the mouth in the first quarter?

But these are nice problems to have, we're over .500 the last two years. Gruden deserves credit for designing an offense that gets players open, identifying their strengths and playing to them. He deserves credit for developing Cousins into a good quarterback. And most of all, deserves credit for making the tough decision to bench the organization's superstar high draft pick at QB, to go with Cousins in the first place. That was not an easy decision, and he was proven correct.

Let's see what he can do with a better defense. I want to see if he knows how to hire a defensive coordinator. I felt, when Manusky was selected for DC, that Gruden should have broadened his search. He did meet with Gus Bradley and others, and ultimately went with Manusky. A good head coach is a good CEO, does he know how to identify leaders who can effect change? If Manusky was the right choice, we'll know it based on the defense. And if the offense stays in top gear without McVay, then we'll know that Gruden has always had a hand in it.

This season will tell us a lot. There are enough questions where I can't blame anyone for having doubts, but Gruden has also shown enough to justify optimism as well. All in all I'm glad he's our coach, and he's easy to root for. It's nice to be able to hope for better and know that there are genuine reasons to think it could actually happen.

HTTR

[metalskins]

I think by week 8 or 9, we need another thread to reevaluate our feelings upon the team and see if they have changed since this thread. Have expectations been reached, not reached, or have they been exceeded?

Personally, I view this year as a make or break year. It is only a successful year if they win more than 8 games, make the playoffs, AND win a playoff game. Naturally #3 can't be had without #2, but if they go 9-7 and miss the playoffs, I think the year is a failure. 10-6 and no playoffs? Maybe not much of a failure, but still disappointing.

[Schneed10]

But if they went 9-7 would you tear it down and start a rebuild with a new coach?

Not sure I'd do that.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

But if they went 9-7 would you tear it down and start a rebuild with a new coach?

Not sure I'd do that.

It would depend on the losses right? There are certain time management issues that JG has consistently struggled with, as well as early season dumb losses.

That said, I truly expect to see Gruden take an important step this season, starting with winning his first opener in his 4 years here.

[insane4theskinsi]

gruden is more like the players friend,not coach.they need a coach that will tear a yard out of their asses if they screw up.can you imagine the hell the players would catch if a player came out and said that pro practices were easier than college ones if bill parcells,bill cowher or even joe gibbs was the coach?redskins organization is terminally ill and i dont see it changing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by insane4theskinsi

gruden is more like the players friend,not coach.they need a coach that will tear a yard out of their asses if they screw up.can you imagine the hell the players would catch if a player came out and said that pro practices were easier than college ones if bill parcells,bill cowher or even joe gibbs was the coach?redskins organization is terminally ill and i dont see it changing.

That's the nature of the current CBA, not a Redskins issue.

[mredskins]

Su'a Cravens of Washington Redskins, 22, pondered retiring

At this point Scott's best pic is Scherff and I can't really think of another good one. The lost McC has not been that big of deal.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Su'a Cravens of Washington Redskins, 22, pondered retiring



At this point Scott's best pic is Scherff and I can't really think of another good one. The lost McC has not been that big of deal.

Crowder?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Crowder?

Ok 2.