Is Carlos Rogers overrated?

[12thMan]

Also, take into consideration that Rogers is still hampered by an ankle injury, which he's tweaked on and off since training camp. I don't think this kid is 100%, not that anyone is at this point in the season.

Hopefully with him he needs to get more reps in, and yes, at this point I don't think him starting would hurt us any more than what we've been getting.

[paulskinsfan]

I guess the real question is this: Is Carlos unable to break into the starting lineup b/c of inconsistent play/talent level, OR is it because Williams doesn't want to put a rookie out there? I was gonna say its b/c he's a rookie, but Sean Taylor started after about 4 weeks. So that makes me think the kid is just not that good, but I really hope Im wrong.

[jamf]

the thing that bothers me is that he is a 25 year old rookie. he had a great year last year in college, but how much of that is due to him being more mature/diciplined than the other guys around him?

you dont need to learn very much to play corner. alot of it is based on instincts. champ was a 20 year old rookie and played well. guys like dre bly, smoot, antoine winfield, nate clements all stepped in early and struggled at time, but they showed flashes of a bright future.

the onlything rogers has showed is a 20 yard cushion...

[Big C]

Originally Posted by jamf

the thing that bothers me is that he is a 25 year old rookie.

24, turned 24 in july

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Think that is due to him or Williams?

[D'BOYZ]

I agree that right now it's to early to determine if this pick is a bust or overated, it's to early to call you need at least 3 years to truly see if a player has develop in to it's potential.

Now during the draft I made a lot comment of how Pac Man and Rogers where being pushed as top players just pecause they where CB and the new need and price value of quality CB I think that bout went higher that they should.

The only thing that worries me is that it's mid season and you have a top 10 pic on the bench the only way he will get better it's by playing look at us Newman and Williams where top 10 pics and they started since day 1 Newman had a good first year and a average second now he's having his best year because we now have quality secondary players to help him last year he was alone.

What I'm saying is that he should be starting right now and for him to not start it tells me that gibbs doesn't have confidence in him look at us we have 6 rookies playing 3 starting (Ware 11, Spears 20th and pettiti 6th round), they made some mistakes at the beginning but right now they are becomming a force in their position respectibly.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

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What I'm saying is that he should be starting right now and for him to not start it tells me that gibbs doesn't have confidence in him look at us we have 6 rookies playing 3 starting (Ware 11, Spears 20th and pettiti 6th round), they made some mistakes at the beginning but right now they are becomming a force in their position respectibly.

gibbs does nothing on defense, its all greg williams. williams favours vets to rookies, we will see him more as the season goes on

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Look at D'Angelo Hall. He played like SHIT his first season now look at him...

[D'BOYZ]

WOW D'Angelo didn't play like shit his first year he played bad the first few games like all rookies do and showed flashes off a good player at the end of the season he was playing good and didn't got beat that much there wherehigh hopes on him this year and so far he has showed it.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

2004 Atlanta Falcons 10 35 28.0 7 0.5 2 50 25.0 48 1 4

Not exactly stellar... I'm not saying he hasn't improved, but he definitely was getting some dirty looks his first year.

[D'BOYZ]

You have to see the stats not so lineal if a player is making 8 int in a season you could say he had a great season but if he was trown to his side more that the other corner or got beat for more completions and deep passes you could say that the other CB had the better season and the other team didn't respect him that much yes he took 8 home but maybe gave 20.

Champ didn't had amazing stats each year but other QB respected him and tried to avoid him as much as they could. Deion also didn't had amazing stats becasue No-One trew his way.

D'Angelo Was getting challenge and beat at the begginig of the season like all rookies but at the end Qb was starting to avoid his side and didn't challenge him that much he still gave some away but as I said and he was I of the rookies that showed more last year.

[D'BOYZ]

Even if your position tha tthe head coach doesn't have a say on the defense and Williams calls all the shots I'm sorry yes Williams prefers veterans but he has played Rookies in the past if a player shows he's capable on handling the job he will put it he hates dumb mistakes thats why he preferes veterans but he won't deny a Rookie to play if he belives he gives him the best chance to win and be succesfull.

And right now not williams or gibbs believe he gives them the best chance

[That Guy]

he's already had injury trouble and some missed training camp... sean taylor who has all world potential didn't start till his 3rd game and he idn't miss any practice time up till then.

[D'BOYZ]

exactly third game you have played 9 games all ready how long for him to be starting this year if he doesn't start next week after a bad game vs Tampe of the other CB what that tells you

[Big C]

williams obviously likes harris somewhat, on the other hand...our FS was matt bowen...there is some difference in skill there fellas