With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gonna be completely honest, I really didn’t see much of a character issue with Parsons.

Thank you. All this red flag talk, is WAY overblown. There's really nothing alarming. There's certainly no evidence he's a "criminal" as is purported a few posts ago.

This is not Derrius Guice folks. It's not even on the same planet.

I wouldn't move up to get him, but if 18 teams are dumb enough to pass on him, the card with his name on it is going to be turned in ASAP.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gonna be completely honest, I really didn’t see much of a character issue with Parsons.

Very difficult to separate fact from fiction on the accusations against Parsons.
Who do you believe? If the worst accusations are true I do not want him on the team.
If they are not true we should draft him. How do you determine the truth?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Very difficult to separate fact from fiction on the accusations against Parsons.
Who do you believe? If the worst accusations are true I do not want him on the team.
If they are not true we should draft him. How do you determine the truth?

Defense...you always post the great questions and comments, but ur missing a couple. Do you trust this administration versus the previous? Also, these stories sometimes are put out to get his stock to drop.

I don’t think they are bad...domestic abuse, gun crime and continuous drug use IMO are always worse.

Lastly, he maybe the best defense player in the draft. On a defense full of leaders...let’s go full voltron and complete this thing

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Very difficult to separate fact from fiction on the accusations against Parsons.
Who do you believe? If the worst accusations are true I do not want him on the team.
If they are not true we should draft him. How do you determine the truth?

What are the worst accusations?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

What are the worst accusations?

I thought the funniest was Urban Meyer acting like a bitch. What a complete douchbag-puss

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

What are the worst accusations?

I am not saying I believe the allegations, but you asked, so here they are. I am not sure what has been disproven. I am just now looking into it as a life long Redskins fan and concerned about about who we draft. That is all.

"The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in January that the initial complaint also includes graphic details of perpetrators exposing their genitalia on and near the faces and bodies of others. Among other things, perpetrators were alleged to have wrestled victims to the ground and made humping actions while on top of them, stolen victims clothes and placed their genitalia on victims while in the team showers."

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...s/202011200131

"Miller reported the lawsuit also named Micah Parsons, Yetur Gross-Matos and Jesse Luketa as "ringleaders of the alleged abuse" and stated the hazing included players saying "I'm going to Sandusky you" in reference to former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who is in prison for molesting young boys while on staff."
"Humphries described the hazing in the lawsuit and said Luketa went as far as to threaten to kill him for complaining about it."

"He claims his alleged tormenters would wrestle victims to the ground, then shove their genitals in the victims' faces or between their buttocks and hump them," Miller wrote. "Those who resisted were bullied, he contends. Hazers also stole their targets' clothes, Humphries says."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...lleging-hazing

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I am not saying I believe the allegations, but you asked, so here they are. I am not sure what has been disproven. I am just now looking into it as a life long Redskins fan and concerned about about who we draft. That is all.

"The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in January that the initial complaint also includes graphic details of perpetrators exposing their genitalia on and near the faces and bodies of others. Among other things, perpetrators were alleged to have wrestled victims to the ground and made humping actions while on top of them, stolen victims clothes and placed their genitalia on victims while in the team showers."

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...s/202011200131

"Miller reported the lawsuit also named Micah Parsons, Yetur Gross-Matos and Jesse Luketa as "ringleaders of the alleged abuse" and stated the hazing included players saying "I'm going to Sandusky you" in reference to former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who is in prison for molesting young boys while on staff."
"Humphries described the hazing in the lawsuit and said Luketa went as far as to threaten to kill him for complaining about it."

"He claims his alleged tormenters would wrestle victims to the ground, then shove their genitals in the victims' faces or between their buttocks and hump them," Miller wrote. "Those who resisted were bullied, he contends. Hazers also stole their targets' clothes, Humphries says."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...lleging-hazing

Yeah me too. I never saw any of this hazing stuff. Now that's a red flag.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I am not saying I believe the allegations, but you asked, so here they are. I am not sure what has been disproven. I am just now looking into it as a life long Redskins fan and concerned about about who we draft. That is all.

"The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported in January that the initial complaint also includes graphic details of perpetrators exposing their genitalia on and near the faces and bodies of others. Among other things, perpetrators were alleged to have wrestled victims to the ground and made humping actions while on top of them, stolen victims clothes and placed their genitalia on victims while in the team showers."

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...s/202011200131

"Miller reported the lawsuit also named Micah Parsons, Yetur Gross-Matos and Jesse Luketa as "ringleaders of the alleged abuse" and stated the hazing included players saying "I'm going to Sandusky you" in reference to former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who is in prison for molesting young boys while on staff."
"Humphries described the hazing in the lawsuit and said Luketa went as far as to threaten to kill him for complaining about it."

"He claims his alleged tormenters would wrestle victims to the ground, then shove their genitals in the victims' faces or between their buttocks and hump them," Miller wrote. "Those who resisted were bullied, he contends. Hazers also stole their targets' clothes, Humphries says."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...lleging-hazing

What we're talking about here is essentially sexual assault, yikes

[skinsfaninok]

I'd take Lance

[Chief X_Phackter]

See, I don't even know what Urban Meyer did. I see where Parsons tweeted that he would make a QB change while he was on a recruiting visit. Ultimately OSU was not allowed to pursue him as a recruit due to their own recruiting violations during his visit. But there must be more to this story that I can't find.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Penn State guys saying "I'm going to Sandusky you"???

WTF.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

Penn State guys saying "I'm going to Sandusky you"???

WTF.

Yeah, that's F'd up if that's true.

[GridIron26]

Per Peter Hailey from NBCSports, WFT considered trading for Orlando Brown but dropped the plans after realizing the cost is too high. The more I read about WFT's offseason strategies, the more I doubt we would trade up in the draft. The theme has been pretty consistent - the WFT is sticking with the long-term strategies so I would be really surprised if we trade up.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Per Peter Hailey from NBCSports, WFT considered trading for Orlando Brown but dropped the plans after realizing the cost is too high. The more I read about WFT's offseason strategies, the more I doubt we would trade up in the draft. The theme has been pretty consistent - the WFT is sticking with the long-term strategies so I would be really surprised if we trade up.

For once, build it the right way. About freaking time. Smart to enquire, smart not to pay what Chiefs did.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Scalper

For once, build it the right way. About freaking time. Smart to enquire, smart not to pay what Chiefs did.

Agree makes sense for chiefs but even imo they paid a steep price. Zeus Jr grades out much better at right than left. That being said he will still be a top ten LT probably and that will make a world of difference