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Old 10-12-2021, 11:48 AM   #151
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What to make of Jamin Davis’ lack of playing time

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It interesting the article reference JOK as being a rookie phenom. We passed on him twice in the draft. I still have reservations on the Davis pick but I am more frustrated with drafting a project in the first than in him as a player.
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:56 AM   #152
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It interesting the article reference JOK as being a rookie phenom. We passed on him twice in the draft. I still have reservations on the Davis pick but I am more frustrated with drafting a project in the first than in him as a player.
Parsons is clearly just being asked to play Edge and rush the passer. I dont know what JOKs being asked to do but if is also just being asked to rush the passer on passing plays .. then that is not comparable to what we are asking of Davis.

One thing I learned ... dont expect a rookie to step in at MLB and be your QB on defense. Just a much harder position with information overload for a rookie, especially a green rookie like Davis.

Del Rio also finally swapped collins/curl for an LB on passing plays .. and it worked a bit at 50% completion but we got burned as well.

At lest Del Rio tried something different.
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The personnel decisions are more worrisome to me than the coaching at this point and the coaching is atrocious. This fuckin regime is clueless im afraid.
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:15 PM   #154
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three consecutive quarterbacks (josh allen, matt ryan, and jameis winston) have thrown four touchdowns against washington, a historic level of failure matched by only three defenses in the history of the league. Others: 2011 giants, 1986 oilers, 1980 49ers.
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:33 PM   #155
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:35 PM   #156
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Parsons is clearly just being asked to play Edge and rush the passer. I dont know what JOKs being asked to do but if is also just being asked to rush the passer on passing plays .. then that is not comparable to what we are asking of Davis.

One thing I learned ... dont expect a rookie to step in at MLB and be your QB on defense. Just a much harder position with information overload for a rookie, especially a green rookie like Davis.

Del Rio also finally swapped collins/curl for an LB on passing plays .. and it worked a bit at 50% completion but we got burned as well.

At lest Del Rio tried something different.
That fair I don't know the expectations of JOK either. I was just going on the article calling them phenoms at the LB position. Perhaps that is a bit of a weak analysis of their expectations.

I am still worried about him being a project. I don't want to be in year 3 of his four year rookie deal hearing his is still learning his role.
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That fair I don't know the expectations of JOK either. I was just going on the article calling them phenoms at the LB position. Perhaps that is a bit of a weak analysis of their expectations.

I am still worried about him being a project. I don't want to be in year 3 of his four year rookie deal hearing his is still learning his role.
I mean at year 3 you have enough evidence and game film to decide if he's worth keeping around or not.

But I think we should've learned by now we can't rely on these 1 year college starters to come in their rookie season and immediately play up to par in the NFL.
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What are the odds Mahomes has 5?

Over under would be at least 5. Someone look up the odds on that. You can bet on anything these days. I think 5 td passes against us by him is extremely reasonable.
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Washington Football Team Defense 2021

Also I thought Davis was having a pretty good year as per pff and all that, just wasn’t getting alot of playing time? Are we calling the guy a project based solely on last week’s game?
Am I wrong when I say he was grading out real well for a rook up until last weeks game? Maybe making his first start gave him nerves? Also it seems JDR has EVERYONE playing under expectations. I don’t think Im ready to say that he isn’t ready.
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I don't know what his PFF grade has been by game, for the year it appears to be 51.9. However, he's been in on less than 50% of the defensive snaps. I wish they would just throw him to the wolves honestly. I really don't see how he could do more harm than good at this point.
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I don't know what his PFF grade has been by game, for the year it appears to be 51.9. However, he's been in on less than 50% of the defensive snaps. I wish they would just throw him to the wolves honestly. I really don't see how he could do more harm than good at this point.

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i don't know what his pff grade has been by game, for the year it appears to be 51.9. However, he's been in on less than 50% of the defensive snaps. I wish they would just throw him to the wolves honestly. I really don't see how he could do more harm than good at this point.
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:39 PM   #163
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You know how Defenses sometimes get nicknames (Steel Curtain, Orange Crush, Monsters of the Midway). I think a great one for our defense would be Warm Butter.
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Old 10-14-2021, 02:02 AM   #164
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Headless chickens is more apt I think. Warm butter can be great in the right circumtances
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Old 10-18-2021, 04:51 PM   #165
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Without looking it up ..

We have to be the 32nd ranked D after yesterday, right?

Didnt see this coming at all. Im shocked. I still think we were correct and reasonable to assume a top 10 D coming into this year.
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