Home Stadium Convo

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Nice try but wrong again. Met Life sucks I'm not a fan but their complaint was about the turf and the fans , the turf was replaced so that report is from before that was done and as for the fans I really don't give two shits if the players from other teams like the Giant fans or not.

Nice try for what?

Met life ranked the worst in the players poll, end of story, don't care how it got there. You win again!

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Nice try but wrong again. Met Life sucks I'm not a fan but their complaint was about the turf and the fans , the turf was replaced so that report is from before that was done and as for the fans I really don't give two shits if the players from other teams like the Giant fans or not.

MetLife Stadium received 18.4 percent of the votes from 85 NFL players who were surveyed.

The players had no problem ripping MetLife Stadium. One said the “turf sucks and the whole place is lame.” Another player ripped the people who attend the games at MetLife Stadium.

“Fans are horrible," the second player said. "Everything about that place is horrible.”

Take the fucking L. Giants stadium worst in the league

[jamf]

Yes!!!
lol

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gotta put a Hong Kong Club in the stadium in the new build

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Last year the Commanders finished last in working conditions and amenities:

https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/3/1/2...lpa-survey-nfl

From the article:

The Washington Commanders were dead last overall, and in last place in several categories. The only category that Washington got high marks in was for its strength coaches, and they were tied for first there. Complaints include small locker rooms, weight rooms, training rooms, space for hot/cold tubs, and lack of onsite Hong Kong Club

[punch it in]

Plenty of polls that rank us last. In literally every poll u look at met life and fedex are the two worst. You guys arguing over which pile of shit stinks worse. Lol.

With the collapse and the sewage pipe I am not sure we don’t finally win something.

[skinsfaninok]

Just saw that Dallas hasn’t trailed a single second at home this season… I don’t even know the last time this team went over .500 at home… what a joke


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[sdskinsfan2001]

U.S. House passes bill to redevelop RFK Stadium site, open door for Commanders' return to D.C.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/us-hous...045520433.html

[mooby]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...-logo-stadium/

Touchy subject but a good read, I'll transcribe it for our non-WaPo people.

Originally Posted by WaPo

The Washington Commanders and the Native American family that helped create the franchise’s former logo have in recent months taken steps to rebuild a relationship that was severely damaged during the team’s previous ownership.

Last week, after many virtual meetings, two representatives from the Commanders and one from the NFL flew to Montana to meet with the descendants of Walter “Blackie” Wetzel, who helped design the profile of an Indian warrior that served as the team’s primary logo from 1972 to 2020, when the team retired the logo and its former name.

And at Northwest Stadium on Sunday, the Commanders held a private ceremony for 22 of Wetzel’s descendants to unveil a memorial honoring him that featured a large gold plaque crediting him with designing the logo and telling the story of his life as “a fervent advocate for Indigenous communities.”

The trips have helped regain the family’s trust, Ryan Wetzel, Blackie’s grandson, said in an interview with The Washington Post. But even though he said things are “going in the right direction,” the family is not fully satisfied with how the team has honored his grandfather.

What would satisfy the family?

“I don’t want to get too complex,” he said, declining to elaborate.

Therefore, as the clock ticks on this congressional session, Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.) will continue blocking legislation that would give the District greater control over the RFK Stadium site.

The D.C. Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium Campus Revitalization Act cleared the House in February with overwhelming bipartisan support, but it needs to pass the Senate for D.C. to be able to develop the federally owned plot, which could include a new stadium for the Commanders. The bill could come up in a Senate committee hearing as early as next week, a person with knowledge of the situation said.

If the RFK bill doesn’t pass this year, Commanders fans’ dreams of returning to the city could die; last month, principal owner Josh Harris did not commit to another legislative effort to put D.C. in play if this one fails.

The bill has been stalled since May, when Daines vowed to block it until “the [Commanders] and the NFL sit down with the Wetzel family” to “properly honor the history of the logo and heritage of our tribal nations.”

In a statement Monday, Daines called the tribute “a step in the right direction” but didn’t say it satisfied his demands.

“This is about righting a wrong,” the statement read. “The legendary Blackfeet logo that was championed by Blackie Wetzel and based on the likeness of Chief Two Guns White Calf must be restored to a place of honor. … The logo is a point of pride and represents the rich Native American history that helped make our nation great, and it should be enthusiastically celebrated across our culture.”

For years, even the Wetzel family disagreed on whether the team’s name was offensive. And by 2014, at least one member believed the team should get rid of the name and the logo.

In 2021, Blackie Wetzel’s son Don traveled from Montana to D.C. to ask the team to return the logo to the family. The team declined; Don left discouraged.

In March 2023, as Don lay on his deathbed, he told his son Ryan to carry on the logo mission.

“I was then ultimately chosen as the one to be the voice for our family, to carry this thing through, and — I’m sorry,” Ryan said Sunday, growing emotional.

This spring, the team and the family started rebuilding their relationship, which was damaged, Ryan said, by former owner Daniel Snyder using the family as “props” and “smokescreens.” Ryan hoped the team might, among other things, honor his grandfather by unretiring the logo, which he saw as a proud representation of Native people on the national stage.

“It shouldn’t be something that’s shameful,” Ryan said. “It should be honored.”

But the Commanders and the NFL told Ryan that wasn’t possible.

“We had the hard conversations about the business constraints and the way that the rest of the world sees things,” Commanders senior adviser Jason Wright said. “We’re going to thread the needle to do exactly what we can for the family.”

Wright, who moved out of his role as team president this summer, joined Commanders vice president of public affairs Kirtan Mehta and Brendon Plack, the NFL’s senior vice president of public policy and governmental affairs, in a visit to Ryan’s home in Montana.

“That, from my family’s perspective, was one of the greatest honors that we’ve ever had,” Ryan said. He described a steak dinner and long conversations with many family members. Afterward, Ryan said, a typically reserved elder named Petse was so inspired that he talked for two hours because he felt “heard, respected and appreciated.”

“He said, ‘I love them for what they’ve done for us so far,’” Ryan remembered.

Days later, the Commanders rolled out the red carpet in Washington. The team flew in Wetzel family members from Montana, Denver and Indianapolis to unveil the tribute, and Sunday morning they streamed into the club level and saw the plaque, a gold helmet, old photos of franchise legends wearing the logo and pictures of Blackie’s many meetings with VIPs.

“No way!” one man yelled, beaming.

“That’s your grandfather,” a man told a young girl.

“Thank you,” a woman said over and over.

After everyone took photos, Barbara Wetzel lit a handful of sweetgrass for a traditional “smudging” ceremony. It smelled like vanilla, and Ryan Wetzel said it brought “good spirits” and “protection” to the memorial.

The family walked down to the field, smiling and snapping pictures. It had taken a lot of convincing to get some of them, who had had negative experiences with the franchise before, to come on the trip, Ryan said.

“They trust them,” he added, pointing to Wright and Mehta.

The family wants to do more to honor Blackie; Ryan was vague but emphasized they want to “build something” with the team. They’ve discussed creating a foundation in Blackie’s name that would address the needs of Indigenous communities, a person with knowledge of the discussions said, but the logistics remain unclear.

Shortly after kickoff, as the Wetzels watched the game from a suite, Fox News published a story that detailed a recent meeting between Daines and a different Native family with a link to Washington’s NFL franchise.

The descendants of John Two Guns White Calf — whose portrait inspired the old logo — called for the franchise to restore the logo.

“We want a seat at the table,” a great-nephew said.

The story seemed like a harbinger of conflict in Congress between Daines and the supporters of the RFK bill.

But Sunday at the stadium, taken on its own, seemed like a significant milestone in the relationship between the franchise and the family. They released a joint statement that said they “look forward to the future and continuing our work together.”

“Just understand it’s good medicine,” Ryan Wetzel said. “Used to be bad medicine; [now] it’s good medicine. So many spirits are following me that never were heard [by this organization].” He pointed to Wright and Mehta. “So I thank these guys for listening.”

I would hope we can all acknowledge the logo isn't coming back. But I also hope they can resolve the tension between the team and the families so we can move forward with the stadium legislation for DC.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by mooby

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...-logo-stadium/

Touchy subject but a good read, I'll transcribe it for our non-WaPo people.



I would hope we can all acknowledge the logo isn't coming back. But I also hope they can resolve the tension between the team and the families so we can move forward with the stadium legislation for DC.

There’s a load of pathos and irony in this sad tale — on the one hand, stop offending Native Americans by using them as mascots, and on the other, honor the pride and dignity of Native Americans embodied in Blackie Wentzel’s great depiction of John Two Guns White Calf. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

I have no problem with the football team making amends with the Wetzels . . . lord knows Snyder f’ed up that situation along with everything else . . . What I have a problem with is the Montana Senator making this molehill into a mountain that he seems prepared to die on. Time to step back, senator, and let the RFK site play out for OUR team. Go pester the Broncos or whoever you root for.


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[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by HTTR

There’s a load of pathos and irony in this sad tale — on the one hand, stop offending Native Americans by using them as mascots, and on the other, honor the pride and dignity of Native Americans embodied in Blackie Wentzel’s great depiction of John Two Guns White Calf. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

I have no problem with the football team making amends with the Wetzels . . . lord knows Snyder f’ed up that situation along with everything else . . . What I have a problem with is the Montana Senator making this molehill into a mountain that he seems prepared to die on. Time to step back, senator, and let the RFK site play out for OUR team. Go pester the Broncos or whoever you root for.


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Snyder F'ed this up big time. His self aggrandizement and his belief he could do no wrong in the eyes of the Redskins fans lead to him losing any support he had. Glad to see the current ownership trying to rectify the wrongs of the previous ownership.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by HTTR

There’s a load of pathos and irony in this sad tale — on the one hand, stop offending Native Americans by using them as mascots, and on the other, honor the pride and dignity of Native Americans embodied in Blackie Wentzel’s great depiction of John Two Guns White Calf. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

I have no problem with the football team making amends with the Wetzels . . . lord knows Snyder f’ed up that situation along with everything else . . . What I have a problem with is the Montana Senator making this molehill into a mountain that he seems prepared to die on. Time to step back, senator, and let the RFK site play out for OUR team. Go pester the Broncos or whoever you root for.


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Yeah we're never gonna make everyone happy. I just want the stadium legislation to move forward and it's also nice to see current leadership try to honor the families and make amends.

[AnonEmouse]

Be nice to see some progress with a new stadium. I just realised, in a months time, it'll be 30 years since I visited DC and watched my favourite player score a pick 6 at RFK. Of course Shuler went on to throw 5 picks of his own and screw the game up. Ah well.

Having a stadium with atmosphere that home fans WANT to go to again would be great.

[That Guy]

I don't understand (I mean I do, but I don't) why some @$$hat from montana gets to decide if the DC football team can have a stadium in DC (when the team and DC government are interested).

[Steve Aztec]

RFK yes.

[mooby]

https://x.com/EricFlackTV/status/1863712765782720843

https://x.com/AndrewDesiderio/status...92405020434862

Hmmm, what could Goodell and Harris be talking about to John Thune?

[Chico23231]

RFK STADIUM LEGISLATION PASSES SENATE AND HEADS TO THE PRESIDENT’S DESK.

The Senate just passed my bipartisan D.C. RFK Stadium Campus Revitalization Act.

If Congress failed to pass my RFK stadium legislation, this decaying land in D.C. would continue to cost taxpayers a fortune to maintain.

My RFK legislation PROHIBITS federal taxpayer funds from being used to develop any future stadium at the RFK site in D.C.

The Congressional Budget Office analysis of my bill also indicates it has NO IMPACT on the federal deficit.

This bipartisan success is a testament to the House Oversight Committee’s unwavering effort to protect taxpayers and our full commitment to ensuring a capital that is prosperous for residents and visitors for generations to come.

Per James Comer

It’s passed like it always should have, as a stand alone bill