Washington trades for Deebo Samuel

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I am psyched some here have some reservations on this trade, but it kinda shows wounds from yhe past. Deebo is easily a legit #2 on any team and certainly ours where we have a bunch of 3 and 4s. Yes, you could argue Brown could develop and I hope they extend him, but one thing to realize about deebo, is he improves both the passing AND running game. No other WR available (or maybe draftable) can clearly do that consistantly. In a way, he makes it feasible to not have to draft a wr and rb. My only concern is health. I would still extend him along with terry for 3 years. This is a very good acquisition indeed. Now we can focus on oline and defense, anything else on offense is GRAVY

You can't extend two wr's for 3 years that are 30 or approaching 30. That's just bad business. I'm going to extend Terry because he is the type of WR that plays a less physical style. He's probably going to play longer than Debo I feel. Hoping they get something done w/ Dymai but I doubt that happens.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You can't extend two wr's for 3 years that are 30 or approaching 30. That's just bad business. I'm going to extend Terry because he is the type of WR that plays a less physical style. He's probably going to play longer than Debo I feel. Hoping they get something done w/ Dymai but I doubt that happens.

Huh? Why not? I think you can, and you do. It's a no brainer for me.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You can't extend two wr's for 3 years that are 30 or approaching 30. That's just bad business. I'm going to extend Terry because he is the type of WR that plays a less physical style. He's probably going to play longer than Debo I feel. Hoping they get something done w/ Dymai but I doubt that happens.

I agree with Chief, you can and probably should. I see no reason to trade a draft pick for a one year rental when there are other wrs you can get to do the same, minus the running element. THAT would be bad business in my mind. The only way you trade picks is for a keeper, otherwise, you screwed up

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I agree with Chief, you can and probably should. I see no reason to trade a draft pick for a one year rental when there are other wrs you can get to do the same, minus the running element. THAT would be bad business in my mind. The only way you trade picks is for a keeper, otherwise, you screwed up

Let's just say for the sake of argument that you extend Terry and Debo, both on 3 year deals. That would mean you would have a ton of money tied up to 2 30 year old wr's for a few more years. One of which is coming off a 51 catch 670 yard season. Why would you do that? I can get Debo's production from a lot of guys and pay them way less and keep my 5th rounder.

If Sk69 is GM Peters, my $ is going on defense. I already have a top 5 offense, but I can't stop the Lions or Eagles. Isn't Milton Williams and Zach Baun free agents? Doubt Philly can keep both. These are the types of guys I'm trying to get. Not a 29 year old WR coming off an average, subpar year.

And to be clear, I don't hate this move. It's just not my first choice. The guys I mentioned would be.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Let's just say for the sake of argument that you extend Terry and Debo, both on 3 year deals. That would mean you would have a ton of money tied up to 2 30 year old wr's for a few more years. One of which is coming off a 51 catch 670 yard season. Why would you do that? I can get Debo's production from a lot of guys and pay them way less and keep my 5th rounder.

If Sk69 is GM Peters, my $ is going on defense. I already have a top 5 offense, but I can't stop the Lions or Eagles. Isn't Milton Williams and Zach Baun free agents? Doubt Philly can keep both. These are the types of guys I'm trying to get. Not a 29 year old WR coming off an average, subpar year.

And to be clear, I don't hate this move. It's just not my first choice. The guys I mentioned would be.

I agree our problem is defense. It would be nice to have 2 solid receivers on long term deals is all I am saying, but I think I may change my tune on deebo based on learning he performs best in contract years. The risk there is he does great this year and we lose him to free agency, but as I now understand it, we may be able to recoup a compensoratory pick if so, so perhaps this truly is a one year rental. If so, we need another receiver, just not an expensive one. I just want a LT and defense at this point, and resign our star punter. Tress Way is the best!

[Meks]

Yea for a 5th and 20 mil, take deebo all day. He's only 29 and he's an animal. No brainer for me. We have the cap space and I trust Peters. Always been a fan of his and beyond pumped for this move.

Watch Peter's extend him and lessen this years cap blow as well. That's what I'm waiting for next.

[Chico23231]

Samuel is gonna fit what we want to do: physical WR who can block in the running game, catch these WR screens and break tackles, experience getting open against quality DBs and another runner in the backfield alongside JD5.

I still think we can go get a speed guy in the draft at WR. This move fills a big need and still allows us to get a young guy…but we don’t have to take that in the first or second round.

[CRedskinsRule]

deebo highlights https://x.com/paulwillFGP/status/189...624215694?s=01

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[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

deebo highlights https://x.com/paulwillFGP/status/189...624215694?s=01

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I don't see who anyone can watch this and not get excited about him. His is shifty, wiry, and VERY strong. Excellent yac. He is one of the best receivers I've seen for breaking tackles. Honestly just a pretty unique offensive weapon in the most complimentary way. He will be a stud when healthy. Excited about bringing him on.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

I don't see who anyone can watch this and not get excited about him. His is shifty, wiry, and VERY strong. Excellent yac. He is one of the best receivers I've seen for breaking tackles. Honestly just a pretty unique offensive weapon in the most complimentary way. He will be a stud when healthy. Excited about bringing him on.

He was healthy for 15 games last year and 15 games the year before. That is pretty good. I can think of alot of our own players who weren’t.

He is the perfect weapon for KK’s offense. All the misdirection. I cannot wait to see him plugged in.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He was healthy for 15 games last year and 15 games the year before. That is pretty good. I can think of alot of our own players who weren’t.

He is the perfect weapon for KK’s offense. All the misdirection. I cannot wait to see him plugged in.

Well he played in those games, credit for that, but he's one of those guys constantly on the injury list each week. When he's 100% he's definitely a beast.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Well he played in those games, credit for that, but he's one of those guys constantly on the injury list each week. When he's 100% he's definitely a beast.

True. At the end of the day all I am saying is I expect 2023 from him not 2024.

[Meks]

He is certainly going to add an element to our game on offense that we do not currently have

[Chico23231]

Would love to us flip Jon Allen for a 6th rounder now and claw back a late round pick

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Would love to us flip Jon Allen for a 6th rounder now and claw back a late round pick

going to be a challenge to trade him with his cap #