Lets Go Pistons

skinsfanthru&thru · 06-17-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

It's not that hard to call offensive fouls...

or to call defensive fouls of players grabbing and slapping...

can anyone without a doubt tell when someone is really knocked back by shaq or if their flopping since flopping has become so prevailent, including the master flopper divac?

skinsfanthru&thru · 06-17-2004, 04:13 PM

what is it about teams that win a lot that cause people to be drinking the hateraid? i used to really like the yankees when they had don mattingly, but once "the boss" pretty much out bid everyone else for the title both before and during the season, i just came to detest them. i've also hated the bulls since mj went to them. what is it about certain teams winning so often that rubs people the wrong way?

cpayne5 · 06-17-2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

or to call defensive fouls of players grabbing and slapping...

can anyone without a doubt tell when someone is really knocked back by shaq or if their flopping since flopping has become so prevailent, including the master flopper divac?

If you're right there, like the refs are, yeah, you can tell when someone is 'knocked back by shaq'. You can tell when someone is faking and when someone is truly getting pushed around.

MTK · 06-16-2004, 12:06 AM

The Pistons are killing the Lakers tonight and I'm lovin' it!

Gmanc711 · 06-16-2004, 12:29 AM

The Lakers should be embarressed by their effort in the NBA Finals. I feel bad for Malone, but everyone else deserves to be getting their asses kicked. What a tankjob. Congratulations to my favorite NBA Team as a young kid, the Detriot Pistons, it was well deserved.

RedskinRat · 06-16-2004, 12:46 AM

That was an excellent sight. Piston win big!

SmootSmack · 06-16-2004, 01:01 AM

I thought the series sucked. I don't care that the Pistons won. Larry Brown up until last night was one of the best, if not the best, coaches not to have a won a professional title. And Joe Dumars is my favorite NBA player of all time so I have no problem with the Pistons winning the title but I wanted a competitive series and this was far from it.

I know Shaq isn't too popular with some people here but I thought he came to play and played hard every night. But beyond that it was really sad, for lack of a better word. Pistons double and triple teamed Bryant every time and no one else (namely Rush, Fisher, and George) stepped up. Payton has looked totally out of place with the Lakers this year and Malone's age seemed to catch up with him.

I wonder if Kobe was distracted at all during this series knowing that regardless of the results the season was coming to a close and now he has to face the toughest challenge of his life. He's got no basketball games to escape to now.

Dave Butz Baby! · 06-16-2004, 01:07 AM

As the Pistons just demonstrated once again, there seems to be two consistant themes in winning championships in any sport.

1. Individuals putting the team's needs before their own will give the team the best shot to get to a championship.
2. Defense wins championships.

Joe Gibbs knows this lesson well! So do the Pistons, the Pats, UConn, the Ravens, ...

C'mon season.. get here....

JWsleep · 06-16-2004, 02:41 AM

And Larry Brown is Gibbs' age as well.

I actually liked the series because it showed that good team BBall could beat the ego-laden star system NBA. And I do hate the Lakers, and it doesn't surprise me that once they took a hit, they folded. They just stopped playing, which is pretty weak for a pro team. But they did get their asses handed to them.

Hockey and Basketball are over. It's just baseball now until the real sport begins!!!!

Daseal · 06-16-2004, 08:48 AM

Larry Brown and Pat Riley are my two favorite NBA coaches. I'm so happy to see Larry get one. The Lakers didn't have a shot against that defense. Kobe would get double/trippled up when he drove, and Fisher/george/rush/etc all had a hand in their face nearly every shot. The Lakers aren't used to having that much pressure applied.

Daseal · 06-18-2004, 08:30 AM

C Payne the Nature Brain!

Our foiled Environmental Science scheme! I still don't see what the problem was!

I don't hate the Lakers and the Yankees because they win. I take multiple things into consideration.
1) For the most part, I've always hated those two teams. Just like I hate the Cowboys just as much if they win 1 game or 16.
2) I look at the players/coaches of each team. For example, the Lakers have Shaq (I hate ogre), Phil Jackson (easily the most over-rated coach ever. Let me go to the teams he coaches and I bet I could make the playoffs.)
3) The way the players act. I hate people that just shrug other teams off, I hate overly cocky guys. This is hard to explain, because I love very confident guys, but when it comes to being somewhat vicious towards the other team I start to wonder. I love how the Lakers start flipping out when they don't get calls. Hey fellas, THIS ISNT LA! In LA they get 2 team fouls a game.

I thought the officiating was fairly good in the series. You know what, if Kobe drives into 3 people and tosses up a shot, he's going to get some contact, but if that's a foul or not is very very hard to decide. Shaq charges. When you have 400lbs flying at you and hitting you while he dunks, that's a charge. That is very easy to call.

I agree he does get hit a lot on the defensive side, but call it. The offensive fouls are the hard ones, which also force him into actually learning to SHOOT!

SKINSnCANES · 06-18-2004, 02:38 PM

Most of us hate the Yankees because we are Orioles fans, atleast people in the DC metro area.

I dont hate the Lakers because they win, im pretty indifferent to them acutally. But i was rooting for the lakers to win becuase ive got stacks of Shaq rookie cards that I want to go up in value.

cpayne5 · 06-18-2004, 02:50 PM

I hate the Lakers because of shaq. He's just an arrogant jerk. As much as he wants to be, he is no Superman.

RedskinRat · 06-18-2004, 06:28 PM

Living in LA and having to put up with the biggest band of fair weather fans gets on my last nerve. As soon as they go on a thre game slide all the banners and flags come off the cars.

I have my Redskins and Red Wings stuff on my car year round, rain/shine. OK, so everyone laughs at me, I've got used to it.

SmootSmack · 06-18-2004, 06:30 PM

Just curious Rat, how did you become a fan of the Red Wings and the Redskins?

06-16-2004, 12:29 AM	#5
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	The Lakers should be embarressed by their effort in the NBA Finals. I feel bad for Malone, but everyone else deserves to be getting their asses kicked. What a tankjob. Congratulations to my favorite NBA Team as a young kid, the Detriot Pistons, it was well deserved. __________________ #21

06-16-2004, 01:01 AM	#7
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I thought the series sucked. I don't care that the Pistons won. Larry Brown up until last night was one of the best, if not the best, coaches not to have a won a professional title. And Joe Dumars is my favorite NBA player of all time so I have no problem with the Pistons winning the title but I wanted a competitive series and this was far from it. I know Shaq isn't too popular with some people here but I thought he came to play and played hard every night. But beyond that it was really sad, for lack of a better word. Pistons double and triple teamed Bryant every time and no one else (namely Rush, Fisher, and George) stepped up. Payton has looked totally out of place with the Lakers this year and Malone's age seemed to catch up with him. I wonder if Kobe was distracted at all during this series knowing that regardless of the results the season was coming to a close and now he has to face the toughest challenge of his life. He's got no basketball games to escape to now. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-16-2004, 01:07 AM	#8
Dave Butz Baby! Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reston, VA Age: 55 Posts: 450	As the Pistons just demonstrated once again, there seems to be two consistant themes in winning championships in any sport. 1. Individuals putting the team's needs before their own will give the team the best shot to get to a championship. 2. Defense wins championships. Joe Gibbs knows this lesson well! So do the Pistons, the Pats, UConn, the Ravens, ... C'mon season.. get here.... __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

06-16-2004, 02:41 AM	#9
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	And Larry Brown is Gibbs' age as well. I actually liked the series because it showed that good team BBall could beat the ego-laden star system NBA. And I do hate the Lakers, and it doesn't surprise me that once they took a hit, they folded. They just stopped playing, which is pretty weak for a pro team. But they did get their asses handed to them. Hockey and Basketball are over. It's just baseball now until the real sport begins!!!! __________________ Hail from Houston!

06-18-2004, 02:38 PM	#12
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Most of us hate the Yankees because we are Orioles fans, atleast people in the DC metro area. I dont hate the Lakers because they win, im pretty indifferent to them acutally. But i was rooting for the lakers to win becuase ive got stacks of Shaq rookie cards that I want to go up in value. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

06-17-2004, 04:13 PM	#2
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	what is it about teams that win a lot that cause people to be drinking the hateraid? i used to really like the yankees when they had don mattingly, but once "the boss" pretty much out bid everyone else for the title both before and during the season, i just came to detest them. i've also hated the bulls since mj went to them. what is it about certain teams winning so often that rubs people the wrong way?

06-16-2004, 12:06 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	The Pistons are killing the Lakers tonight and I'm lovin' it!

06-16-2004, 12:46 AM	#6
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	That was an excellent sight. Piston win big!

06-16-2004, 08:48 AM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Larry Brown and Pat Riley are my two favorite NBA coaches. I'm so happy to see Larry get one. The Lakers didn't have a shot against that defense. Kobe would get double/trippled up when he drove, and Fisher/george/rush/etc all had a hand in their face nearly every shot. The Lakers aren't used to having that much pressure applied.

06-18-2004, 08:30 AM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	C Payne the Nature Brain! Our foiled Environmental Science scheme! I still don't see what the problem was! I don't hate the Lakers and the Yankees because they win. I take multiple things into consideration. 1) For the most part, I've always hated those two teams. Just like I hate the Cowboys just as much if they win 1 game or 16. 2) I look at the players/coaches of each team. For example, the Lakers have Shaq (I hate ogre), Phil Jackson (easily the most over-rated coach ever. Let me go to the teams he coaches and I bet I could make the playoffs.) 3) The way the players act. I hate people that just shrug other teams off, I hate overly cocky guys. This is hard to explain, because I love very confident guys, but when it comes to being somewhat vicious towards the other team I start to wonder. I love how the Lakers start flipping out when they don't get calls. Hey fellas, THIS ISNT LA! In LA they get 2 team fouls a game. I thought the officiating was fairly good in the series. You know what, if Kobe drives into 3 people and tosses up a shot, he's going to get some contact, but if that's a foul or not is very very hard to decide. Shaq charges. When you have 400lbs flying at you and hitting you while he dunks, that's a charge. That is very easy to call. I agree he does get hit a lot on the defensive side, but call it. The offensive fouls are the hard ones, which also force him into actually learning to SHOOT!

06-18-2004, 02:50 PM	#13
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	I hate the Lakers because of shaq. He's just an arrogant jerk. As much as he wants to be, he is no Superman. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

06-18-2004, 06:28 PM	#14
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Living in LA and having to put up with the biggest band of fair weather fans gets on my last nerve. As soon as they go on a thre game slide all the banners and flags come off the cars. I have my Redskins and Red Wings stuff on my car year round, rain/shine. OK, so everyone laughs at me, I've got used to it.

06-18-2004, 06:30 PM	#15
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Just curious Rat, how did you become a fan of the Red Wings and the Redskins? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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