Brunell Reworks Deal (FKA "Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal")

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Redskins88

Lol, I apologize for that. I didn't realize that there was already a user with such a close name to me. Is there actually a way I can change my username?

That's what you get for including NeckCAR in your username.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

That's what you get for including NeckCAR in your username.

Gibbs was in "NeckCar" so its a fine sport by me. I personally don't watch it, but I can see why others would.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Gibbs was in "NeckCar" so its a fine sport by me. I personally don't watch it, but I can see why others would.

Of course... they watch for the wrecks. Otherwise your just watching traffic.

[SmootSmack]

My guess is that this decision is less about Brunell the person than it is about Brunell the union member. He's probably, as are other NFL players around the league, been instructed to not acquiesce during this time of negotiations

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

My guess is that this decision is less about Brunell the person than it is about Brunell the union member. He's probably, as are other NFL players around the league, to not acquiesce during this time of negotiations

TAFKAS makes a very good point here. Brunell might be siding with the union. Brunell might not want to make a deal until he knows whether or not an extension will be reached. If an extension is reached, Brunell might not want to restructure out of self-preservation. If I understand the salary cap correctly and a deal is reached, there will be a cap, albeit a larger one, in 2007. If Brunell restructures his cap figure in 2007 will increase by a few million; making it more likely that he will be a cap casualty in 2007.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

My guess is that this decision is less about Brunell the person than it is about Brunell the union member. He's probably, as are other NFL players around the league, to not acquiesce during this time of negotiations

That makes way too much sense, it's easier to just label him a bitch.

He's probably on roids too, and in his roid rage he's refusing to restructure.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That makes way too much sense, it's easier to just label him a bitch.

He's probably on roids too, and in his roid rage he's refusing to restructure.

While I don't believe this comment was necessarily directed at me, I feel the need to respond. I don't think that Mark Brunell is any different from LaVar when it comes to the need to restructure his deal. We have to get LaVar restructured cause it would cost too much to cut him. We need to get Brunell restructured cause we are way over the cap and need to get under. I do think that calling him a "bitch" might be a little out of line, but we desperately need cap space. If he refuses to renegotiate his deal, he's pretty much an ass.

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jdlea

While I don't believe this comment was necessarily directed at me, I feel the need to respond. I don't think that Mark Brunell is any different from LaVar when it comes to the need to restructure his deal. We have to get LaVar restructured cause it would cost too much to cut him. We need to get Brunell restructured cause we are way over the cap and need to get under. I do think that calling him a "bitch" might be a little out of line, but we desperately need cap space. If he refuses to renegotiate his deal, he's pretty much an ass.

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

I don't disagree, I would just prefer see the big picture rather than just jumping to conclusions and assume he's just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't disagree, I would just prefer see the big picture rather than just jumping to conclusions and assume he's just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

Aw, man...have a heart. The only exercise some of us get is jumping to conclusions.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by jdlea

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

Yeah, I noticed that too. It seems one of the themes of this forum is to hate on anyone that makes a lot of money, or wants more money. It happened with Samuels, Smoot and Pierce, and it's happening to Arrington right now. But of course there's a double standard when it comes to Brunell, and we have to think rationally about what the reason could be for him not restructuring...

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Yeah, I noticed that too. It seems one of the themes of this forum is to hate on anyone that makes a lot of money, or wants more money. It happened with Samuels, Smoot and Pierce, and it's happening to Arrington right now. But of course there's a double standard when it comes to Brunell, and we have to think rationally about what the reason could be for him not restructuring...

When it comes to renegotiating, I have give more leniency to the player that has been a team player throughout his stay with our organization. Someone who never questions the coaches decisions, and supports the other people around him without question, even when they are trying to take his job. I like what Mark Brunell does for our team, 1000 times more than I like what Lavar does for our team. Mark and Joe are the same type of man. I know that no matter what happens, Mark will not shoot us in the foot if he can honestly avoid it.

[irish]

Originally Posted by jdlea

While I don't believe this comment was necessarily directed at me, I feel the need to respond. I don't think that Mark Brunell is any different from LaVar when it comes to the need to restructure his deal. We have to get LaVar restructured cause it would cost too much to cut him. We need to get Brunell restructured cause we are way over the cap and need to get under. I do think that calling him a "bitch" might be a little out of line, but we desperately need cap space. If he refuses to renegotiate his deal, he's pretty much an ass.

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

Why is MB an ass for looking out for what he views as his own best interests? The minute he's of no use to the skins he will be gone because the skins are looking out for their best interests so why can he look out for his? Sounds like a double standard.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by irish

Why is MB an ass for looking out for what he views as his own best interests? The minute he's of no use to the skins he will be gone because the skins are looking out for their best interests so why can he look out for his? Sounds like a double standard.

No, it's not a double standard. Anytime a player in this league looks out for himself that makes them a prick. It's a double standard if people give Mark Brunell a pass. How is this that much different from what TO did? It's not that much different. The same thing happened with Samuels last year where he needed to restructure or we would need to cut him. Very few people on this site came to his defense. Anytime a player doesn't put the team first that makes them a bad person. I'm taking a harder stance than I feel because everyone else is so eager to give him a pass on this. That's bs. People hate on LaVar cause of what he makes. If he doesn't restructure people will be crucifying him on this site. The same should go for Brunell.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by irish

Why is MB an ass for looking out for what he views as his own best interests? The minute he's of no use to the skins he will be gone because the skins are looking out for their best interests so why can he look out for his? Sounds like a double standard.

Why doesn't this same logic apply to Arrington, Smoot, Bailey, Pierce and Ramsey?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That makes way too much sense, it's easier to just label him a bitch.

He's probably on roids too, and in his roid rage he's refusing to restructure.

If he was on roids he probably be much better, rather than scared to death to take a hit, and unable to complete a pass beyond 10 yards.

Well you have been mocking certain individuals over the coarse of the last couple of years who have stated that some of these moves in which we have overpaid players is going to hurt us in the long run, what's your responce now? Looks like they knew what they were talking about after all. How's that 43 mil for a QB ready for the scrap heap looking at this point? He was a part of 1 playoff victory, I say apart because it was our defense that won that game in spite of Brunells ineptitude.


Brunell 43 mil
Arrington 68 mil
Portis 50 mil

The first 2 are a complete waste of money, we would have been fine with another quality back, either Jones from Detroit, or Jackson from St. Louis, both would have been avail. in the draft to us, and Jackson actually fits Gibbs style of running.

161 million dollars on 3 players, have any idea what we could do with that money to help the overall state of our team? Not to mention the picks we gave up to complete 2 of those deals.

Don't worry Matty your boy will restructure, he's to smart not to know that the rest of the league knows he's finished, he's nothing more than a emergency QB at this point who's scared to take a hit, he's got it to good with us to throw it away over a few dollars to go ride the pine somewhere else for less than he would get from us to start.