Ramsey to the Jets

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well Ramsey was gone whether we needed cap space or not. This was a decision that was a long time a coming, my friend.

Yup, agreed. Just a prediction that the cap space that was freed by his trade would be used in part to sign another free agent that may happen soon.

[mooby]

salutations patrick. Hope you beat weak ass pennington for the starting job there.

[scowan]

Changing the subject a little,(but not entirely) We now have 3, 6 round picks this year. Right? I guess we are looking for a diamond in the rough so to speak. I don't know that we really got anything for Ramsey. How many of our 6th round picks have made the team recently? Does anyone know?

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Best of luck to him........hope he gets a shot at the starting job there.

[Big C]

6th round pick...damn. oh well. cap space and he was in contract year

[Twilbert07]

Hope we draft a placekicker with the pick!

[Schneed10]

I'm just glad we can finally put the Ramsey vs Brunell debates to rest. Good luck to him, I hope he does well in NY, he deserves it.

Sorry to see such a good guy leave, but we're better off.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm just glad we can finally put the Ramsey vs Brunell debates to rest.

You're quite the optimist aren't you?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Huddle

You're quite the optimist aren't you?

LOL

Wishful thinking, probably.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm just glad we can finally put the Ramsey vs Brunell debates to rest.

I think this debate may still linger a little bit after he's gone, like Humphries when he left... oh wait that's before the internet was born.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think this debate may still linger a little bit after he's gone, like Humphries when he left... oh wait that's before the internet was born.

Now we can start Brunell v. Campbell!

[RiggoRules]

For some perspective....

Going back to 1961, here are the QBs the Skins have invested a first round pick in:

1961-Norm Snead (spent 3 yrs in DC, 52% comp%, 196 TDs, 257 Ints for career)
1994-Heath Shuler
2002-Patrick Ramsey
2005-Jason Campbell

So far, three busts and one that has yet to take a snap. Not a great track record.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

For some perspective....

Going back to 1961, here are the QBs the Skins have invested a first round pick in:

1961-Norm Snead (spent 3 yrs in DC, 52% comp%, 196 TDs, 257 Ints for career)
1994-Heath Shuler
2002-Patrick Ramsey
2005-Jason Campbell

So far, three busts and one that has yet to take a snap. Not a great track record.

Yep, quite pathetic isn't it? In reality, quarterbacks picked in the first round that go on to great success occurs about as rarely for the Redskins as they do for everyone. Not many teams can brag about it.

But ...

Let's take a look at 1st round draft picks overall since 1991 shall we?

1991 - Bobby Wilson, DT, Michigan St
1992 - Desmond Howard, WR, Michigan
1993 - Tom Carter, CB, Notre Dame
1994 - Shuler
1995 - Michael Westbrook
1996 - Andre Johnson, T, Penn State ... WHO???
1997 - no pick
1998 - not sure

Not until 1999 did we finally get a winner with Champ. Then 2000 with Arrington and Samuels. Then we were back to our old ways with Rod Gardner in 2001. Then Ramsey. Then our first pick (in the second round) in '03 was Taylor Jacobs.

All in all, we haven't really had much luck with the 1st round picks in general.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Then we were back to our old ways with Rod Gardner in 2001.

All in all, we haven't really had much luck with the 1st round picks in general.

The ironic part is Snyder of all people, strongly expressed his preference for Santana Moss instead of Gardner - who was Schot's guy. Moss was one pick after, by the jets.

And also, it's been a good showing with the top choices since gibbs has been back. With Sean Taylor (over Winslow Jr.) and the solid contribution of Carlos Rogers last year as a rookie (will probably develop as a better cb than Smoot, at his pace). Time will tell with Campbell when he starts.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

The ironic part is Snyder of all people, strongly expressed his preference for Santana Moss instead of Gardner - who was Schot's guy. Moss was one pick after, by the jets.

And also, it's been a good showing with the top choices since gibbs has been back. With Sean Taylor (over Winslow Jr.) and the solid contribution of Carlos Rogers last year as a rookie (will probably develop as a better cb than Smoot, at his pace). Time will tell with Campbell when he starts.

Well the Taylor/Winslow debate isn't over. Yes Taylor has the uper hand now with Jr going on IR last season. But If Taylor is in jail for three years and Winslow picks it up then...........

I do remember that Snyder liked Moss more but who's to say we would have been the Jets and traded him away before he had the season he had?