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[Monk-Fan]

Its going to be great whene, once again the Skins notonly make the playoffs but reach the NFC Championship game and we can laugh at this moron.

[ptracy20]

He clearly just hates the Redskins. Last in the Division. Please.

[D'BOYZ]

Ok guys really I also don't agree with a lot of his remarks also it's to early right now to predict I'm still waiting for the draft and see if we cover or you for that matter the needs we still have.

the only thing that I agree with him and this has been hunting my head all offseason is this

There is no doubt the NFC East is going to be brutal, which might make it tough for any of those teams to get to a Super Bowl.

I agree with this, in my opinion Philly is the worst team in our division followed by the giants, in my point of view the reason Philly was so good the las couple of years was in part because our hole division sucked they didn't had real competition.

I don't see them as a power house anymore and I really see them as the team with more weaknesses I see your team and our team as the most improved teams in the division but I see a really brutal division for the first time that might cust any of us the SB we might get tired at the end of the season the players won't be fresh like in seattle and Chicago that face really bad teams in their divisions.

[GTripp0012]

^^^agree mostly. What doesn't kill ya will make you stronger, so I doubt that those teams won't be ready in the playoffs. What may elude the Skins/Boys in that division is homefield advantage. I don't see anyone in the East better than 12-4, and the Panthers or Bears could be better than that.

Neither is better than Washington, though.

[SUNRA]

The Redskins are the only team in the entire NFL to address their needs from a position of strength as oppose to one of desperation. From offensive coordinator to WR's and pass rushing. And just in case anyone missed it, we still have room to resign our core guys. Take a look at our opponents in the NFC East and tell me that the Giants signing of every CB on the free agent market old and washed up wasn't an act of desperation stumbling behind our lead. No need to mention Dallas's dumb ass signing. Eagles either.

CBS Sportsline is apart of the New York based media that have only wishful thinking idiots called Giant and Jets faithful who have only memories of Namath and Simms to drival over. We will win a Superbowl before any of them do , you can take that to the bank.

[D'BOYZ]

I'm sorry man but we didn't do no signing of desperation we got younger at RG and TE we went and got a reliable RT for a low contract so we secure that area and let the young one develop and compete and we got the most fierce receiver ( yeah with all the bagage) but we didn't overpaid we made a healthy contract that gives him the money he wanted but every year he's on the line 2 being cut and it won't hurth the franchise.

We didn't overpaid for the players we got like you did man paying Archuleta the highest Safety salary contract, a guy tha thave huge coverage problems and hasn't live to his hipe, or paid 2 #2 wr at best #1wr money Randal el caught 35 passes last year but your owner still tought he was worth that 30+ mill contract.

I repeat for me your best pickup this year was resigning williams and getting Saulders as your off Coord. you got 2 wr that will make you more agressive but you still need a LB maybe 2, and another cb.

I repeat I see both our teams as the best in the division the ones that did the most to help themselves but I have to waith an see the draft to determine who has the upper hand.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

I'm sorry man but we didn't do no signing of desperation we got younger at RG and TE we went and got a reliable RT for a low contract so we secure that area and let the young one develop and compete and we got the most fierce receiver ( yeah with all the bagage) but we didn't overpaid we made a healthy contract that gives him the money he wanted but every year he's on the line 2 being cut and it won't hurth the franchise.

We didn't overpaid for the players we got like you did man paying Archuleta the highest Safety salary contract, a guy tha thave huge coverage problems and hasn't live to his hipe, or paid 2 #2 wr at best #1wr money Randal el caught 35 passes last year but your owner still tought he was worth that 30+ mill contract.

I repeat for me your best pickup this year was resigning williams and getting Saulders as your off Coord. you got 2 wr that will make you more agressive but you still need a LB maybe 2, and another cb.

I repeat I see both our teams as the best in the division the ones that did the most to help themselves but I have to waith an see the draft to determine who has the upper hand.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. So quick to take the Skins signings for granted. I respect your opinion about what you THINK are our best signings, however you have overlooked the best one IMO (Andre Carter).

As for your opinion about our free agent haul, whateva. Gregg Williams runs the defense and I think he's a little more familiar with his defense and what he needs from a strong safety than you, so I'm gonna have to side with GW here. Oh, and if you forgot Matt Bowen looked to be a FORCE a couple of seasons ago up until he got hurt. I think Archuleta is better (quicker, stronger, more athletic) so I'll roll with him. Oh, and strong safety is run support, free safety is coverage.

As for TO, he does make the offense better, but the Cowboys still suffer from one fatal flaw, Drew Bledsoe. He's got a helluva arm, but I'll take my chances that we can get to him before he can get the ball to TO. And last I checked Terry Glenn is still on the other side, oooh real scary. Meanwhile, at Redskin Park we've also got a bona fide playmaker at #1, Santana Moss. And now we have other options at wideout that will free up Moss and also Portis. Uh oh, its pick your poison. Put eight in the box and leave Moss one on one with Terrence Newman? Play coverage and watch Portis run wild?

I think the Cowboys are improved with the Keyshawn subtraction and TO addition. But when he went to Philly they were already an elite team and he just helped push them over the top. Dallas, while good, is not an elite team. Or have you forgotten your record over the last few seasons? I'll let you in on a little secret, it wasn't that good. But optimism reigns supreme in the offseason. I think TO will produce, that won't be the problem, the problem will be the same its always been, his mouth. Maybe not this year, maybe not next, but TO is a ticking time bomb. With $10 mil this year he's happy. Hope it lasts.

As for Al Saunders, feel free to shake in your boots. No one knows what our offense is going to look like next year. Will it resemble KC? Will it be what we ran last year? A hybrid of the two? If you know, or rather, if you think you know, then feel free to fill me in.

Lastly, our division. SKins-Giants-Eagles-Cowboys. The Eagles still have the best qb in our division, a very good defense, and they had a ton of injuries last year (probably a result of playing so many playoff games the last few years).

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Tsk, tsk, tsk. So quick to take the Skins signings for granted. I respect your opinion about what you THINK are our best signings, however you have overlooked the best one IMO (Andre Carter).

As for TO, he does make the offense better, but the Cowboys still suffer from one fatal flaw, Drew Bledsoe. He's got a helluva arm, but I'll take my chances that we can get to him before he can get the ball to TO. And last I checked Terry Glenn is still on the other side, oooh real scary. Meanwhile, at Redskin Park we've also got a bona fide playmaker at #1, Santana Moss. And now we have other options at wideout that will free up Moss and also Portis. Uh oh, its pick your poison. Put eight in the box and leave Moss one on one with Terrence Newman? Play coverage and watch Portis run wild?

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I didn't overlooked on Carter I'm just not sold on him he hasn't lived to his hipe that's all let's see if he plays better in a different system for me your best adittion are your wr that was your biggest hole Lloyd and Randall wil lgive another dimmensio nto your offense.

About your comments on T. Glenn man he's way better than Lloyd and Randall combined he's a bigger treath you're just blinded by the TD randall made at the superbowl but he only had 35 catches being the #2 receiver last season, Even Lloyd being the #1 receiver in SF never came close to Glenns numbers. Actually we have verry similar offenses we have 2 great receiver corps with playmakers in each side Moss, TO we have 2 other capable reciever Randall, Lloyd- Glenn, Crayton, pro bowl TE Witten and Cooley, great RB Portis, JJ and Barber. and Good but old qbs Brunell and Bledsoe.

The biggest difference I see is that we play a more control prevent offense and with saulder I see a more agressive 1 we will just have to waith and see how it ends.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

About your comments on T. Glenn man he's way better than Lloyd and Randall combined he's a bigger treath you're just blinded by the TD randall made at the superbowl but he only had 35 catches being the #2 receiver last season, Even Lloyd being the #1 receiver in SF never came close to Glenns numbers. Actually we have verry similar offenses we have 2 great receiver corps with playmakers in each side Moss, TO we have 2 other capable reciever Randall, Lloyd- Glenn, Crayton, pro bowl TE Witten and Cooley, great RB Portis, JJ and Barber. and Good but old qbs Brunell and Bledsoe.

The biggest difference I see is that we play a more control prevent offense and with saulder I see a more agressive 1 we will just have to waith and see how it ends.

I love how commentators, and now you, talk about Randle El's 35 catches last year as proof that he's not a #2 wideout. That makes sense, unless you happened to watch the NFL or knew anything about the Steelers offense. Little known fact, Plaxico Burress caught 35 balls the previous year as the #2 wideout. And Roethlisberger threw more passes in '04 than he did '05, and to top it all off, the Steelers had the most rushing attempts in the league last year. So they weren't throwing it a ton, in fact, the Steelers m.o. was to pass early to get the lead, then rely on the running game and defense to hold on. Are his 35 catches an indication that he wasn't getting open? That he can't catch the ball?

As for Lloyd, seeing as how the 49ers had the worst passing game in the league with 118.6 yards per game, Lloyd's 48 catches for 733 yards and 5 tds don't seem quite so mundane anymore. Especially considering the qbs he had throwing him the ball, as I don't think anyone will confuse Alex Smith and Tim Rattay for Joe Montana and Steve Young. And Lloyd's 89 yard catch came on the Cowboys, with Terrence Newman chasing him the whole way. I think he outplayed your girl Terry Glenn that day, 2 tds to 0, 142 yards to 137. Maybe I'm wrong, I sure hope you show me where though.

I would keep on, but you lost me when you compared Clinton Portis, who has three 1500 yard seasons in four years (1300 was his off year) to Julius Jones who has yet to crack 1000 in either of his. I'm not knocking JJ, but he's not in the same class as Portis right now. Any mention of Patrick Crayton must be qualified with "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." So Patrick Crayton is a capable receiver "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." Or do u need proof?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

I love how commentators, and now you, talk about Randle El's 35 catches last year as proof that he's not a #2 wideout. That makes sense, unless you happened to watch the NFL or knew anything about the Steelers offense. Little known fact, Plaxico Burress caught 35 balls the previous year as the #2 wideout. And Roethlisberger threw more passes in '04 than he did '05, and to top it all off, the Steelers had the most rushing attempts in the league last year. So they weren't throwing it a ton, in fact, the Steelers m.o. was to pass early to get the lead, then rely on the running game and defense to hold on. Are his 35 catches an indication that he wasn't getting open? That he can't catch the ball?

As for Lloyd, seeing as how the 49ers had the worst passing game in the league with 118.6 yards per game, Lloyd's 48 catches for 733 yards and 5 tds don't seem quite so mundane anymore. Especially considering the qbs he had throwing him the ball, as I don't think anyone will confuse Alex Smith and Tim Rattay for Joe Montana and Steve Young. And Lloyd's 89 yard catch came on the Cowboys, with Terrence Newman chasing him the whole way. I think he outplayed your girl Terry Glenn that day, 2 tds to 0, 142 yards to 137. Maybe I'm wrong, I sure hope you show me where though.

I would keep on, but you lost me when you compared Clinton Portis, who has three 1500 yard seasons in four years (1300 was his off year) to Julius Jones who has yet to crack 1000 in either of his. I'm not knocking JJ, but he's not in the same class as Portis right now. Any mention of Patrick Crayton must be qualified with "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." So Patrick Crayton is a capable receiver "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." Or do u need proof?

Perfect response.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

So Patrick Crayton is a capable receiver "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." Or do u need proof?

Better watch that one. In 2004, I think Crayton beat Taylor in the endzone for the game winner. But overall, a nice rebuttal.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

I love how commentators, and now you, talk about Randle El's 35 catches last year as proof that he's not a #2 wideout. That makes sense, unless you happened to watch the NFL or knew anything about the Steelers offense. Little known fact, Plaxico Burress caught 35 balls the previous year as the #2 wideout. And Roethlisberger threw more passes in '04 than he did '05, and to top it all off, the Steelers had the most rushing attempts in the league last year. So they weren't throwing it a ton, in fact, the Steelers m.o. was to pass early to get the lead, then rely on the running game and defense to hold on. Are his 35 catches an indication that he wasn't getting open? That he can't catch the ball?

As for Lloyd, seeing as how the 49ers had the worst passing game in the league with 118.6 yards per game, Lloyd's 48 catches for 733 yards and 5 tds don't seem quite so mundane anymore. Especially considering the qbs he had throwing him the ball, as I don't think anyone will confuse Alex Smith and Tim Rattay for Joe Montana and Steve Young. And Lloyd's 89 yard catch came on the Cowboys, with Terrence Newman chasing him the whole way. I think he outplayed your girl Terry Glenn that day, 2 tds to 0, 142 yards to 137. Maybe I'm wrong, I sure hope you show me where though.

Also I didn't put JJ and portis toghether I said Portis is great wich he is and I place our 2rb as good, with potential but they aren't in the same league I mention JJ and Barber together.

I would keep on, but you lost me when you compared Clinton Portis, who has three 1500 yard seasons in four years (1300 was his off year) to Julius Jones who has yet to crack 1000 in either of his. I'm not knocking JJ, but he's not in the same class as Portis right now. Any mention of Patrick Crayton must be qualified with "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." So Patrick Crayton is a capable receiver "as long as Sean Taylor isn't around." Or do u need proof?

ok here we go I know Pittsburgh is a run first team but still produced 100+ yards receivers and i nsome season 2 1000+ yards receivers and and yes plaxico had 35 catches his last year with pitt but that was when randall el took some passes from him and he only played 11 games Randall-el with no #3 WR only produced 35 even in 2004 with plaxico on the team he had a better year than last year.

Before that Plaxico had 66, 78 60 catches for 1008, 1325, 860 and I know you're going to say Tommy Maddox but hey with tommy it was still a Run first team. And your comment about Pittsburgh being the team with more Rushing attemps of the nfl they only had 20 more attemps then dallas and dallas still produced an 1136 (62 catches) 8td wr in Glenn and a 839 (70cath) 6td receiver in KJ so sorry man if I don0t give credit to Randall-el as a #2 or complete receiver. He has other quallities like PR and trow fake reverse pass but he isn't a #2 receiver if he was so great Pitt would have kept him.

Now About B. Lloyd he has potential he makes some fantasy catches he burned our D last year, but he drops a lot off the easy ones 2 and yes he has had bad Qb's I'll give you that but again why will SF trade him for a 4th if a remmember correctly without having another wr in the roster. Makes you wonder.

And About the Crayton vs Taylor thing I see others answering that comment Crayton burned him for the go ahead TD in 2004 Taylor made him eat dirt in 3rd down must convertion in 2005 right now they are 1-1 in my book.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Argh. I'm looking at this purely objectively and it doesn't seem like any opposing fans can really do the same.

TO did not make the offense world's better. He improved it, but didn't make it elite by any means. We overspent without a doubt, but we made it to the playoffs and WON a game last year which is more than I can say for the rest of the NFC East. I don't think that whoever the Cowboys, Giants or Eagles draft is going to make enough of a difference to push them over the Skins. Last year I was totally objective and said that the Eagles would probably take the division again (I didn't predict the McNabb injury and TO fallout). But seriously, the division is the Skins to lose this year.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Honestly, I think TO is a good boy this year and won't be a problem at all. I just think the Cowboys will be average to slightly above average. The other teams in the division have improved, namely the Redskins and Giants. I think the Cowboys and Eagles will be duking it out for last in the division.

[hooskins]

I can not believe they put Philly AND the Giants in front of us. Really doesnt make too much sense, and his justification for each is even worst. Now I understand why much of the media think the Cowboys have had a better offseasons, even without TO, they had some solid signings, and they are going to rely on the draft to fill their other holes. That being said, even if you hate the Skins, I see no way the Dolphins, Giants, and Eagles, could be put in front of us. No way.