Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

[Beemnseven]

On the post game show on Sportstalk 980, Doc Walker said it best -- (paraphrasing) if Campbell can't do better than Brunell, then it was a waste of a pick.

That's basically where I am. I don't think you're throwing in the towel by letting Jason Campbell play. At some point, you have to wonder if sitting Brunell and having the kid take over is what's best for the team.

Does Brunell still give us the best chance to win? While it's not all on him, maybe Campbell completes a pass to a tightly covered receiver, or he does something that Brunell couldn't do all night: hit a receiver while being blitzed and make the opposing defense pay for it. Make them back off a bit. The way things played out tonight, Dallas had no reason not to blitz someone on every single play. The Redskins couldn't defend it once!

[Gmanc711]

I'm really starting to lose paitence. I mean the offensive line did not play well, I'm not going to let them off the hook here....

But damn, Brunell just looked awful. I mean when Dallas blitzes 8 guys, SOMEONE has to be open...SOMEONE is one on one, there has to be a check route or something. I mean he missed open recivers, he taking too long in the pocket, he's playing scared, he would throw the ball too quickly somtimes. Overall he just dosent look comfrotable at all; and really looks like he's hurt somewhere in there.

Were still 0-2, so I dont really know what to say; I dont know first hand how Campbell has grasped this offense and if putting him out there would be feeding him to the woods, so I could understand Brunell being in there another short string of games (not that I think he desreves to be)...but I can tolerate him starting next week...but if were in Houston struggling with him, I put Campbell in before the games end and we start things with him. In addition, if in the middle of October were 2-5...its Campbell time right there.

Someone mentioned Favre...and I am not the biggest fan of him; but I've heard crazier things and Snyder might be the only owner in the leauge who'd do that.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

But damn, Brunell just looked awful. I mean when Dallas blitzes 8 guys, SOMEONE has to be open...SOMEONE is one on one, there has to be a check route or something. I mean he missed open recivers, he taking too long in the pocket, he's playing scared, he would throw the ball too quickly somtimes. Overall he just dosent look comfrotable at all; and really looks like he's hurt somewhere in there.

On a couple of occasions last night, Dallas would blitz and Brunell would throw an accurate albiet soft pass in a spot where only his guy can get it. All those passes were dropped. I remember vividly one with Moss, and one with Randle El. Brunell is doing a lot of what I expect from a veteran QB. In 2 losses, he's only been picked off once. He completed 60% against the Vikings, so I don't know what the big deal is there. Chalk up a bad game vs. Dallas, I guess, even though that was more a product of the entire team getting destroyed than anything. Brunell is giving us no more than we expected, but let's face it, to beat Dallas without Portis, Brunell was going to have to have a really good day. I'm not going to hold it against him that he didn't, setbacks are part of the game.

[itvnetop]

I give him one more half against Houston... if we're looking the same against that Defense, a shakeup is needed (even if it's not totally on the QB, a change may spark something).

[EternalEnigma21]

i'll agree I've scratched my head over the Samuels pro-bowls a time or two...
Especially last year in the cheifs game, and I've always thought dockery was a bad player... flat out.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

The chance of winning the division is slowly slipping away. With the NFC additions in FA and other teams utilizing the draft wiser than the skins have playoffs spots rather Wildcard is going to go fast and to teams that will probably have 10 wins. I am not seeing how we can be one of those teams.

Benching Brunell- is throwing in the towel for this season. There is no hope without him this early. That is unsatisfactory to me.

To do that,what are they telling players by that action? Thanks for all the hard work you put in but this club is going nowhere fast.

Sure it be good/bad if Brunell would announce Monday that he is retiring. It would do more probably for this team only for the cap.

Next year is a long way off to sit through all the humiliation from peers and simply watching the skins play. This isnt even the tough part of the schedule mind you.

This is just terrible- to have so much money into the team and so many posistions still needed. I think we need quality run stopping DT's, OL(LG,C,wut is going on with our Tackles?, and hardest of all is...Al to call plays that can be executed.

He may be knowledgable I will give him that but it is evident he has no insight as to the what is demanded from Mark and the line. Bringing him in seems to have given him free reign to change our identity. This has always been a run first team, I am so embarrassed right now how the cards are fallling. Looking at Marks history he in his Heyday was a rollout/mobile passer. Reading coverages and looking downfield has never been his strong points. In this offense that is what is being asked 3,4,5 wide no dumpoffs is ridiculous. Its worse b/c O-Line is being bombarded is blitzes but sadly what is reoccuring for a reason is they simply are guilty on those 3 or 4 man rushes. Nothing will change to get us back on track this year, period

Next week@ Texans 1pm ET FOX
10/1 vs. Jaguars 4:15pm ET CBS
10/8 @ Giants 1pm ET FOX
10/15 vs. Titans 1pm ET CBS
10/22 @ Colts 4:15pm ET FOX
11/5 vs. Cowboys 1pm ET FOX
11/12 @ Eagles 1pm ET FOX
11/19 @ Buccaneers 1pm ET FOX
11/26 vs. Panthers 1pm ET FOX
12/3 vs. Falcons 1pm ET FOX
12/10 vs. Eagles 1pm ET FOX
12/17 @ Saints 1pm ET FOX
12/24 @ Rams 1pm ET FOX
12/30 vs. Giants 8pm ET NFL Network
If this is our schedule I am thinking if this is us healthy we may get lucky and be 8-8. Im so disappointed and hurting over this.

[BMF21]

Gotdam right........

[EternalEnigma21]

this is the downside from not building through the draft and developing young talent into your system and having it be the only system they know....

just look at teams like the Pats and Steelers and Jags... most consistant successful teams do just that.

[railcon56]

Brunell fuckin sux period.... TIME MY ASS ..BEEN TIME

[MightyJoeGibbs]

I would give the go ahead and put Campbell with the first team offense this week in practice, give him the start next week b/c its just the Texans. Should be a good time to ease him in safely. This offense is not for Mark(this is why he showed no enthusiasm at the announcement and facelift Al brought) Campbell has the mechanics and tools for this offense-however next year would be our next shot at restoring this club. Geez I cant even say what this offense is? What is the philosophy behind it? This is a higher degree of Spurrier. Just line up with more guys running downfield than we have to block the rush. In fact, Spurriers O was.... more productive. Damn, can you believe that!! Holy crap.

*Fudge*, why couldnt Al have been a consultant or secondary caller to aid our passing woes. Last years system wasnt broke. Passing game and point of attack was just outdated and we lacked the weapons to excel. With all the additions, and Al, it simply wasnt meant to be with Mark. We didnt get lucky now we are 0-2 and reality is showing historically there is the tiniest chance of getting to the playoffs. Even this thread symbolizes what is going on. This wasnt meant to be the topic of Lacking- it was hoped to have these discussions as thinking about our future not that the fire alarm has been pulled and this year is going up in flames. But what can you do? We put our faith in an outsider(Al) and a has been washed up QB(no introduction) and again the Skins are the laughing stock. The more we change, the more we stay the same. Unbelievable.

[SmootSmack]

I imagine Brunell is eager to play against Jacksonville in a couple of weeks. Maybe that'll inspire him and set off a string of strong performances. I think either way Campbell is the starting quarterback to start 2007. But it's not 2007 yet.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I imagine Brunell is eager to play against Jacksonville in a couple of weeks. Maybe that'll inspire him and set off a string of strong performances. I think either way Campbell is the starting quarterback to start 2007. But it's not 2007 yet.

Maybe that is the perfect time to make him accountable. Dont even dress him or bring him. If I were him I'd start thinking of clever ways to spend all the money that we paid him to sabotage our season and his HOF chances. No matter what that cant be resolved or taken back. No way he gets to play Jax.

[12thMan]

I think Brunell sucks is the easy way out...although right about now it's probably true.

As far as the offense being out of snych. Well my thoughts on that are, the QB sets the rythym, he sets the pace often times. He can impose his will on the tempo of the game. Brunell never, ever forces anything.

Today I watched Eli Manning play three very mediocre quarters of football. But when his team needed him most, he made the gutsy throws to win the game. On that final drive where they won the game, you can't tell me Philly 'took everything' away, yet Eli was able to string together enough throws for his offense to believe they could pull it out. That's not the case with Brunell or the Redskins. No, eveything doesn't rest on Brunell. No, he doesn't shoulder all the blame for the ineptness of our offense, but if he of all people can't pull up his own bootstraps, huddle the boys up, and start throwing between the numbers, woe unto us!!

[redrock-skins]

I was in that camp that said "don't worry it's preseason". Then when we lost last week, "just wait, we'll be fine".

No more. He's got to be benched.

Al Saunders is a big waste of $2M to call run plays on every 1st and 2nd down. Gibbs could have done that (but wouldn't have).

[Gibbs'IllegitChild]

to all who feel we should leave the decision of whether or not to bench brunell up to what happens next week,
WHAT WILL THAT PROVE? ANY LIMP WRISTED qb IN THE LEAGUE, COLLEGE FO THAT MATTER, CAN PASS AGAINST THE TEXANS. THEY ARE AS GOOD AS MY TOWN PEEWEE LEAGUE TEAM. MAYBE IF THE SKINS WERE AT LEAST PLAYINGG AGAINST A MEDEOCURE TEAM I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO NEXT WEEK, BUT WE'RE NOT. LETS STOP THE BLEEDING AND GIVE CAMPBELL A LEGITAMATE SHOT, UNLIKE THE ONE RAMSEY WAS GIVEN.