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Old 10-10-2006, 08:18 PM   #1
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Control the ball? Hell, they didn't punt until the 4th quarter.

The ideal situation is to control the ball against every team you play, but unfortunately it's easier said than done. I can't remember the last time we were able to play a ball control game against the Giants.
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:57 PM   #2
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Our defense is whats wrong with our offense. The giants closed the half with about a 4 minute drive, then opened the second half with about an 8+ minute drive. When our offense finally got the ball in the second half they moved it into field goal range where Hall promptly missed a 42 yarder.........ballgame! So to answer the question..........our defense can't get off the freakin field. And don't tell me about, they only gave up 1 td all day......give me a break. Oh that, and if Mark Brunell gets any pressure he crumbles into the fetal position.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:04 PM   #3
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Our defense is whats wrong with our offense.... our defense can't get off the freakin field.... that, and if Mark Brunell gets any pressure he crumbles into the fetal position.
that's pretty much it. the playcalling didn't seem to work with the matchups (or it was just too predictable) as well.
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:27 PM   #4
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Keep trying to compare brunell to the elite qb if you want to. ask any gm in the league who would they rather have brunell or manning or either manning. The difference between brunell and manning if your behind in the fourth quarter you know you have a chance to win or going to win with manning. Trying to compare manning to brunell is like trying to compare a sports car to a tricycle. You can make any stat you want to go in your favor but come cone on do you really think brunell a top flite qb. He so inconsitant one week good two weeks bad. Manning throw the ball down field our great sideline qb throws it behind the line or scrimmage or to the sideline 7o percent of the time. Its so high school its sad. brunell will have great stats this week against one the worst time in football and everyone will go ape about saying he back it will be a mirage. What really sad or makes me p-ss off is he suppose to be this mobile qb but everytime he under pressure or he assumes he under pressure instead of like other pro qb who step into the pocket it, Brunell just keeps backing up and up and throw the ball away instead of giving his so called playmakers a chance like the other teams do. Look at bledsoe the statue of stiffness on sunday against the eagles he ran a few time and got killed getting that td iby diving and takiing it for the team when has brunell ever done that,he just keep backing up and up or throw it away instead of running maybe getting a yard or two and sliding and taking it for the team. Get a couple of yards then go out of bounds do something else beside throwing the damn ball out of bounds. And anyone who tries to compare manning and brunell or with brady or palmer is on crack. hail to the skins
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:47 PM   #5
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:59 PM   #6
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:58 AM   #7
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I think that the problem with the Redskins, and the Cowboys, is the QB.

That is why I never believed for a minute that neither Brunell was good after beating the Texans (come on) nor Bledsoe after beating the Titans (who by the way plays here in Washington on Sunday), and that is the team Dallas is playing next week and guess what? Bledsoe is going to look like a hero.

Some guys might say but we won against the Jaguars, yeah, but that was a solo perfermance by Moss. I mean come on, the throw was bad and Moss could have gotten a vicious hit but with his great ability makes the safety miss and runs it to the house for the OT winning TD. Both the other TDs were, in my opinion, made possible by Moss again.

Some guys say well we only had 40 sanps, or the TOP did not give the O enough time to do much. Well, that again is the QB's fault, how?

When the QB stinks as bad as our QBs, as we all know, the D will not respect the passing game and will bring more guys to the line or blitz more often. that is why you can't have as many rushing attempts as you would want and that affects your TOP.

The D didn't play as good, you know why, because THEY DID PLAY GOOD its just that you can't do too well when you are given a very slim margin of error, 19 points isn't not that high of a score to overcome.

the problem here (and I mentioned this before in other posts) Gibbs and Parcells LOVE their QBs, Brunell is the good ol' christian boy and Bledsoe is the guy Parcells drafted and doesn't want to admit that he made a mistake.

Now you could say that they don't have a better alternative, and that is the true and a very bad and costly mistake by the front office. I mean look at the money they spent on WRs this off-season and forgot one simple problem, do they have a reliable arm to throw the ball to them.

This might sound crazy, but I think it is better for the Redskins as a team to start playing Jason Campbell. Who knows? he might be the next Roethlisberger, and if he is not, well he is going to have enough experience to start next season. Brunell was washed up when he got here and it has only gotten worse, some fans get happy and jump up and down when the team wins a game, but never forget the games like the one they played in NY against a very shaky secondary, a team that I believe should've lost the game.

I say Romo and Campbell now, even if you have to sacrfice a seaons, you will have to, one way or another.
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I think that the problem with the Redskins, and the Cowboys, is the QB.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:28 AM   #9
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I think that the problem with the Redskins, and the Cowboys, is the QB.
I find it puzzling you say that, when the problem in Dallas is clearly the offensive line.

Brunell and Bledsoe are similar in that if you give them time, they can get the job done. If you let them get hit down after down their effectiveness is drastically reduced.

I was amazed that Dallas didn't do more to beef up their OL during the offseason.

Pulling the QB is always the magic solution the media and the fans want and it's always the first card that is pulled when an offense struggles. Rarely is it the right move. Are the media and the fans smarter than Parcells and Gibbs? Do I even need to answer that?
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Do you work for the Redskins in the front office? Or are you Joe Gibbs, trying to trick everyone to think that you are just a fan. Man, I drank the kool aid too. But you are bathing in it. lol

I think that Mark is not washed up. However I do think that JC would be a up grade to the QB position. He's more mobile, he's got a better arm, and more up side, hopefully. Mark is at the point in his career, where his body can't hold up week in and week out. I think he would be a very good back up QB. And if he would have to enter the game he would be in pro bowl form. Because his body would not have been subject to the weekly grind of a starting QB.

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I find it puzzling you say that, when the problem in Dallas is clearly the offensive line.

Brunell and Bledsoe are similar in that if you give them time, they can get the job done. If you let them get hit down after down their effectiveness is drastically reduced.

I was amazed that Dallas didn't do more to beef up their OL during the offseason.

Pulling the QB is always the magic solution the media and the fans want and it's always the first card that is pulled when an offense struggles. Rarely is it the right move. Are the media and the fans smarter than Parcells and Gibbs? Do I even need to answer that?
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:12 PM   #11
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Do you work for the Redskins in the front office? Or are you Joe Gibbs, trying to trick everyone to think that you are just a fan. Man, I drank the kool aid too. But you are bathing in it. lol

I think that Mark is not washed up. However I do think that JC would be a up grade to the QB position. He's more mobile, he's got a better arm, and more up side, hopefully. Mark is at the point in his career, where his body can't hold up week in and week out. I think he would be a very good back up QB. And if he would have to enter the game he would be in pro bowl form. Because his body would not have been subject to the weekly grind of a starting QB.

Isn't it about time for Jason Campbell?
So you think JC would be an upgrade. Based on what? What little we've seen in a few preseason games? Damn, you must be a scout or something to know that he would be in "Pro Bowl form" if he played.

Please spare me with your armchair knowledge. JC an instant Pro Bowler? Don't make me laugh. Everyone is a freaking talent scout nowadays. Please.

I guess our coaching staff is just holding this Pro Bowler in waiting back. I guess they just don't understand talent otherwise why would this incrediblely talented QB not be in the lineup if he is indeed ready for prime time and ready for the Pro Bowl.

Your thoughts on JC are based totally on speculation and what you think, vs. what the coaches know.
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So you think JC would be an upgrade. Based on what? What little we've seen in a few preseason games? Damn, you must be a scout or something to know that he would be in "Pro Bowl form" if he played.

Please spare me with your armchair knowledge. JC an instant Pro Bowler? Don't make me laugh. Everyone is a freaking talent scout nowadays. Please.

I guess our coaching staff is just holding this Pro Bowler in waiting back. I guess they just don't understand talent otherwise why would this incrediblely talented QB not be in the lineup if he is indeed ready for prime time and ready for the Pro Bowl.

Your thoughts on JC are based totally on speculation and what you think, vs. what the coaches know.

Ok Ok calm down. If you would took time to read my post correctly Joe, oh, I mean Mattyk72. lol You would have realized that I was talking about Mark coming of the bench in a game and being in pro bowl form. Geez
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:11 AM   #13
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Good post TheBigD. I agree with you 100%. Only, I don't feel starting Campbell is sacrificing the season, I think he gives us the same chance to win as Brunell when the game is put in his hands, if not better. I havent even seen him in a regular season game and say that!
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I havent even seen him in a regular season game and say that!
That's really easy to say right now.

We don't know what he can or can't do right now, so it's easy to say yeah go ahead and put him in.

I find it hard to believe the result of last week would have been any different, or in any of our losses for that matter. If the season dictates playing him, so be it. But for right now we have enough problems, and I don't think he's the magic cure all.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:11 AM   #15
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Did anyone listen to sportstalk 980 yesterday (tuesday)? On my way home from work "smokin Al" brought up some numbers on Brunell that were staggering. I can't remember exactly what it is he said but the jist of it was...Brunell is 15-16 as the starter of the redskins and out of those 31 games he has thrown for under 100 yards 7 times.....and over 200 7 times and the rest are 150 and below......or something along those lines.....he went on to say a lot more concerning his number and compared him to qb's like Couch, Garcia, Dilfer etc........players that are done basically. Anyway.....I know this particular post is wretched......but did anyone hear that and can give exactly the numbers that were used on sportstalk 980?????????
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