Jeff Garcia signs w/ Cleveland

beg8878 · 03-09-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Does Couch go down as one of the biggest busts of all time considering he was the no. 1 pick and supposed key to the new Browns franchise?

That distinction will always be with Ryan Leaf...

At least Couch was a professional off the field. He has had some decent games, played in the playoffs (I think, it might have been Holcomb).

Ryan Leaf was just awful right out the gate and that attitude where you just wanted to "smack" him

johnnyredskin63 · 03-09-2004, 06:23 PM

mandarich was a huge bust,but there is not any bigger than ryan leaf.i would argue shuler,and desmond howard were close though even if howard eventually got his game at a higher level.i give credit where it's due though,couch,mirer,and jake plummer are huge busts too.

Gmanc711 · 03-09-2004, 06:24 PM

Couch isnt a bust, cause he's not a terrible qb or anything, hes just not the #1 star he was supposed to be. I relaly think to be a bust you have to be just flat out awful.

Daseal · 03-09-2004, 07:01 PM

Geh, Danny wasn't hurt either! Another thing is, I wouldn't actually do it. Couch was hurt and he did his best for that team. I gotta feel bad for the guy and hope he gets a job somewhere.

Who knows, he might come on late in his career.

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-09-2004, 11:30 PM

I think I even heard someone on around the horn today say Couch had a career completion percentage of over 60%. plus he never really had much of an o-line or consistent running game to help him out. I think he could have solid years ahead of him under the right coach and in the right system but let's be honest, anyone thinking he was going to be a hall of fame back coming out of college had to be smoking something.

johnnyredskin63 · 03-10-2004, 04:37 PM

guys,is it just me or does jeff garcia seem,as tony soprano would say"a little light in the timberlands"?or is he just a little feminine?what's the deal with this fellow?it does'nt matter to me,but i would not want to shower with him.

JWsleep · 03-10-2004, 07:25 PM

Lol, Johnnyred. Look, if he didn't come out of the closet in San Fancisco, he's not coming out in Cleveland!

SmootSmack · 03-10-2004, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyredskin63

guys,is it just me or does jeff garcia seem,as tony soprano would say"a little light in the timberlands"?or is he just a little feminine?what's the deal with this fellow?it does'nt matter to me,but i would not want to shower with him.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/news/04garcia.html

mizzo skins man · 03-11-2004, 05:02 PM

Garcia is on his farewell tour. He hasn't shown anything to me lately. It is typical for a fan like myself to develope a what have you done for me lately attitude. So what I say to Garcia is, Happy Trails to You Until We Meet Again, In wich we will this season. I really hope I don't have to eat my own words.

MTK · 03-11-2004, 05:57 PM

Actually Mandarich turned things around briefly with the Colts and was pretty decent, but of course he never lived up to the mega hype he had coming in.

johnnyredskin63 · 03-11-2004, 06:12 PM

who was picked ahead of him at #1?although he was not a number 1 pick,the boz was a really huge bust in the nfl was'nt he?

03-09-2004, 06:23 PM	#2
johnnyredskin63 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 203	mandarich was a huge bust,but there is not any bigger than ryan leaf.i would argue shuler,and desmond howard were close though even if howard eventually got his game at a higher level.i give credit where it's due though,couch,mirer,and jake plummer are huge busts too. __________________ it's me,bigredskinfan63 bigledzepfan63 "the sea was red and the sky was grey,wondered how tommorow could ever follow today HAIL TO THE REDSKINS always remember ladies and germs-THE COWBOYS SUCK

03-09-2004, 06:24 PM	#3
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Couch isnt a bust, cause he's not a terrible qb or anything, hes just not the #1 star he was supposed to be. I relaly think to be a bust you have to be just flat out awful. __________________ #21

03-10-2004, 04:37 PM	#6
johnnyredskin63 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 203	guys,is it just me or does jeff garcia seem,as tony soprano would say"a little light in the timberlands"?or is he just a little feminine?what's the deal with this fellow?it does'nt matter to me,but i would not want to shower with him. __________________ it's me,bigredskinfan63 bigledzepfan63 "the sea was red and the sky was grey,wondered how tommorow could ever follow today HAIL TO THE REDSKINS always remember ladies and germs-THE COWBOYS SUCK

03-10-2004, 07:25 PM	#7
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Lol, Johnnyred. Look, if he didn't come out of the closet in San Fancisco, he's not coming out in Cleveland! __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-11-2004, 05:02 PM	#9
mizzo skins man Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St. Joseph Missouri Age: 49 Posts: 83	One more stop Garcia is on his farewell tour. He hasn't shown anything to me lately. It is typical for a fan like myself to develope a what have you done for me lately attitude. So what I say to Garcia is, Happy Trails to You Until We Meet Again, In wich we will this season. I really hope I don't have to eat my own words.

03-09-2004, 07:01 PM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Geh, Danny wasn't hurt either! Another thing is, I wouldn't actually do it. Couch was hurt and he did his best for that team. I gotta feel bad for the guy and hope he gets a job somewhere. Who knows, he might come on late in his career.

03-09-2004, 11:30 PM	#5
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	I think I even heard someone on around the horn today say Couch had a career completion percentage of over 60%. plus he never really had much of an o-line or consistent running game to help him out. I think he could have solid years ahead of him under the right coach and in the right system but let's be honest, anyone thinking he was going to be a hall of fame back coming out of college had to be smoking something.

03-11-2004, 05:57 PM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Actually Mandarich turned things around briefly with the Colts and was pretty decent, but of course he never lived up to the mega hype he had coming in.

03-11-2004, 06:12 PM	#11
johnnyredskin63 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 203	who was picked ahead of him at #1?although he was not a number 1 pick,the boz was a really huge bust in the nfl was'nt he? __________________ it's me,bigredskinfan63 bigledzepfan63 "the sea was red and the sky was grey,wondered how tommorow could ever follow today HAIL TO THE REDSKINS always remember ladies and germs-THE COWBOYS SUCK

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