Upshaw and Bauman are released

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 09-05-2004, 04:36 PM

i kind of thought baughman was gone,but i would have thunk they would have kept upshaw.would'nt surprise me if he ended up in tampa or dallas.gibbs is the expert,but i would have kept sultan over betts any day.i think abe jimoh made it on his special teams play.

jamf · 09-05-2004, 04:56 PM

oh jesus... not only do we have ade jimoh on the team, but we only have 4 cornerbacks on the roster.

read the last couple of paragraphs.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Paintrain · 09-05-2004, 05:15 PM

Keeping only 4 CB is curious since Williams likes to run the style of defense he does, but he does say that Lott has corner skills and Taylor can drop down to cover.. We should have 4 CB and 4 (Taylor, Bowen, Lott, Franz) safeties so I would think that 8 DB's is about the same as any other team in the league.. Hopefully Rufus Brown gets put on the practice squad..

At RB I think they realized that Betts and McCollough are the same player, neither brings anything different than the other and since Cartwright is a special teams player as well as a short yardage option he got the nod.. Do you think John Simon is really hurt so badly he can't play at all or is this a classic Gibbs "stashing a player" like they did in the old days?

At TE, hopefully Royal can stay healthy this year, but other than that I'm not suprised at any of the cuts.

Upshaw didn't do anything to impress me so adios..

offiss · 09-05-2004, 05:36 PM

Both Bauman, and Brown, cut, didn't see that coming, I would think that Scott, and Brown, will both be on the practice squad, no doubt, Sultan as well if he's not picked up. I like the fact that Ade made it, I think he has the most potential out of the rest of the CB's that have been cut, he is raw, but I guess the coaches feel he has shown an ability to progress. Clifton Smith is a lot bigger than I thought, wearing #54 he looked like Trotter out on the field, hopefully he will play better, glad to see him make it, I won't miss Upshaw, he was a waste of money.

redwagonskins · 09-05-2004, 05:40 PM

This isn't going to be the final roster. There are some interesting guys out there that got waived and may be signed this week. Stay tuned...

GoSkins! · 09-05-2004, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by redwagonskins

This isn't going to be the final roster. There are some interesting guys out there that got waived and may be signed this week. Stay tuned...

Gotta agree with that. If I were the skins, I'd be combing the wire to fill a couple of pressing needs. I'm sure there have to be some respectable D-Linemen out there.

CRT3 · 09-05-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

I like the fact that Ade made it, I think he has the most potential out of the rest of the CB's that have been cut, he is raw, but I guess the coaches feel he has shown an ability to progress.

Guess you haven't been on this site nor watched the games to make this statement. Jimoh still has to go.

dieselhog · 09-06-2004, 07:24 AM

Not happy that Sultan got iced.

Glad it was Coach Gibbs cos if Spurrier had done this, I would question his sanity.

:smashfrea

ChounsMan · 09-06-2004, 08:37 AM

I stand by Gibb's decision to cut those players... He knows how to win & I trust he's making the best moves to get us their.

Glad to see Gibran was cut, Spurrier & his vision for a QB future wasted that pick on a guy that might not have seen regular season play ever....???

Hogskin · 09-06-2004, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChounsMan

Glad to see Gibran was cut, Spurrier & his vision for a QB future wasted that pick on a guy that might not have seen regular season play ever

He HAD to be cut to be put on the practice squad, which is where he will end up. There has never been any question of him making the 53-man roster.

joecrisp · 09-06-2004, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChounsMan

Glad to see Gibran was cut, Spurrier & his vision for a QB future wasted that pick on a guy that might not have seen regular season play ever....???

Hamdan was the 18th pick of the 7th round in 2003, by the way. He was never expected to be much more than a project and a career backup, which is what most 7th rounders are, if they're lucky enough to make a roster. I think even Spurrier would tell you that. He's the kind of guy that sits on the practice squad for a couple of years, learns the ropes, and then becomes a 3rd-stringer for a couple of years. If he's lucky, he gains enough experience to maybe become a backup somewhere 4 or 5 years down the road. I expect he'll be signed to the practice squad, and probably play in NFL Europe again next spring.

Hogskin · 09-06-2004, 09:51 AM

Well said, Joe. Scott Secules was one example of that. He managed to hang around a few years with Miami. I coached him in soccer as a pre/early-teen in Centreville. He was a terrific kid and our best athlete - AND I believe his dad was football coach at Annandale HS. I was really pulling for him to make it big, but his destiny was much like Hamden's appears to be.

skins009 · 09-05-2004, 06:57 PM

Wow i can't say I agree with letting Bauman go and keeping Jimoh. Baumen to me looked good as a nickel corner. Jimoh though he was great physical skills, just plain sucks. He sucked last year and he sucked this preseason.

Daseal · 09-05-2004, 07:56 PM

Well, I read something on here saying Williams told Jimoh to let guys by in the St. Louis game, not sure how much truth there is to that. One thing Jimoh does is work hard. He's modest and tries hard, remember, we have a new coaching staff where that means A LOT.

No big suprises. McCullough was the odd man out. He reminded me of trung the way he didn't hit holes. He'll get picked up somewhere, but doubt he'll be one we regret. Upshaw was a huge shock to me! I also hope someone picks up Hamdan.

Hogskin · 09-05-2004, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I also hope someone picks up Hamdan.

I don't think anyone will be picking him up. He's headed for our practice squad along with several others that were dropped.

09-05-2004, 04:36 PM	#1
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 62 Posts: 289	i kind of thought baughman was gone,but i would have thunk they would have kept upshaw.would'nt surprise me if he ended up in tampa or dallas.gibbs is the expert,but i would have kept sultan over betts any day.i think abe jimoh made it on his special teams play. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

09-06-2004, 08:37 AM	#9
ChounsMan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Connecticut Age: 54 Posts: 312	I stand by Gibb's decision to cut those players... He knows how to win & I trust he's making the best moves to get us their. Glad to see Gibran was cut, Spurrier & his vision for a QB future wasted that pick on a guy that might not have seen regular season play ever....??? __________________ Throwing on 4th and inches..!

09-06-2004, 09:51 AM	#12
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 84 Posts: 659	Well said, Joe. Scott Secules was one example of that. He managed to hang around a few years with Miami. I coached him in soccer as a pre/early-teen in Centreville. He was a terrific kid and our best athlete - AND I believe his dad was football coach at Annandale HS. I was really pulling for him to make it big, but his destiny was much like Hamden's appears to be. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

09-05-2004, 04:56 PM	#2
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,349	oh jesus... not only do we have ade jimoh on the team, but we only have 4 cornerbacks on the roster. read the last couple of paragraphs. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

09-05-2004, 05:15 PM	#3
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Keeping only 4 CB is curious since Williams likes to run the style of defense he does, but he does say that Lott has corner skills and Taylor can drop down to cover.. We should have 4 CB and 4 (Taylor, Bowen, Lott, Franz) safeties so I would think that 8 DB's is about the same as any other team in the league.. Hopefully Rufus Brown gets put on the practice squad.. At RB I think they realized that Betts and McCollough are the same player, neither brings anything different than the other and since Cartwright is a special teams player as well as a short yardage option he got the nod.. Do you think John Simon is really hurt so badly he can't play at all or is this a classic Gibbs "stashing a player" like they did in the old days? At TE, hopefully Royal can stay healthy this year, but other than that I'm not suprised at any of the cuts. Upshaw didn't do anything to impress me so adios..

09-05-2004, 05:36 PM	#4
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Both Bauman, and Brown, cut, didn't see that coming, I would think that Scott, and Brown, will both be on the practice squad, no doubt, Sultan as well if he's not picked up. I like the fact that Ade made it, I think he has the most potential out of the rest of the CB's that have been cut, he is raw, but I guess the coaches feel he has shown an ability to progress. Clifton Smith is a lot bigger than I thought, wearing #54 he looked like Trotter out on the field, hopefully he will play better, glad to see him make it, I won't miss Upshaw, he was a waste of money.

09-05-2004, 05:40 PM	#5
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	This isn't going to be the final roster. There are some interesting guys out there that got waived and may be signed this week. Stay tuned...

09-06-2004, 07:24 AM	#8
dieselhog Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bolton, Lancashire Age: 53 Posts: 166	Not happy that Sultan got iced. Glad it was Coach Gibbs cos if Spurrier had done this, I would question his sanity. :smashfrea

09-05-2004, 06:57 PM	#13
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Wow i can't say I agree with letting Bauman go and keeping Jimoh. Baumen to me looked good as a nickel corner. Jimoh though he was great physical skills, just plain sucks. He sucked last year and he sucked this preseason.

09-05-2004, 07:56 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Well, I read something on here saying Williams told Jimoh to let guys by in the St. Louis game, not sure how much truth there is to that. One thing Jimoh does is work hard. He's modest and tries hard, remember, we have a new coaching staff where that means A LOT. No big suprises. McCullough was the odd man out. He reminded me of trung the way he didn't hit holes. He'll get picked up somewhere, but doubt he'll be one we regret. Upshaw was a huge shock to me! I also hope someone picks up Hamdan.

Upshaw and Bauman are released

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