Upshaw and Bauman are released

Daseal · 09-05-2004, 08:45 PM

True, Hogskin.

MTK · 09-05-2004, 09:03 PM

My thoughts on the cuts:

-Mildly surprised about Upshaw. He's never lived up to his first round hype and I think this is more of the case of Williams going with the youth movement. Warner showed enough to justify this cut.

-Only 4 corners? Something doesn't sound quite right here, I'm thinking the staff could have their eye on someone they knew was going to be cut today.

-Bauman, who cares? He's an average DB who didn't really pan out. He's not a huge loss. I am surprised however that Jimoh made the team over him, but as I've said before on this board my name doesn't start with 'Coach' so what do I know? I am a bit surprised Rufus Brown didn't make it, he seemed to have a good shot at making the team after a solid preseason.

-Not surprised about McCullough. I predicted a backfield of Portis, Betts, Cartwright and Morton. McCullough is still too raw, he's got the skills but from the sounds of his post-cut comments today he needs a bit more maturing.

-Hamdan and Scott are PS material. Scott had a good preseason but he wasn't going to beat out Jacobs for the #5 spot. Hamdan's a good kid with skills but he's still very green.

-Surprise of the day? By far it's OL Daryl Terrell. This guy has all-world potential, when is someone finally going to see this and give him the chance he deserves?? Screw the Ade Jimoh fanclub, Terrell is where it's at. I thought he had a hell of a camp and was dirtbag material.

SmootSmack · 09-05-2004, 09:15 PM

Matty what did Sultan say?

I thought Rufus Brown might make it as well. I think one thing that Brown and Bauman had going against them was their size, or lack thereof. Especially now with these no contact rules being enforced undersized DBs are at a bit of a disadvantage wheras in the past they may have been able to do a little bumping and grabbing to stay with the receivers

Upshaw is no world beater but Warner is very raw and I haven't seen much of Daniels yet so I would have thought Upshaw would have helped if for no other reason he's a veteran presence

MTK · 09-05-2004, 09:17 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Sep5.html

"Honestly, I'm good enough to be on the roster," said McCullough, who lost out to Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright for the final running back spots and spoke to running backs coach Earnest Byner about the practice squad yesterday. "To me it's like a slap in the face [to go the practice squad], but I do want to be here, so hopefully everything will work out."

JWsleep · 09-05-2004, 10:02 PM

When do they name the practice squad?

I agree, Matty. I bet they have their eye on another corner somewhere else. It's not that I don't like our corners (yes, I even have a soft spot for Ade. He's going to turn it around!), but they are INJURY PRONE! We need some depth here. Can Lott really play NFL CB?

MTK · 09-05-2004, 10:32 PM

Williams did mention in camp that he liked Lott's coverage skills, so perhaps that's his plan.

davy · 09-05-2004, 10:39 PM

Warner is a major surprise, he has been in the league 6 years, played in 6 games and amassed a total of 5 tackles(3 solo), now he is considered more useful that Upshaw, amazing!

McCullough is a waste of speed as far as I can tell.

offiss · 09-06-2004, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davy

Warner is a major surprise, he has been in the league 6 years, played in 6 games and amassed a total of 5 tackles(3 solo), now he is considered more useful that Upshaw, amazing!

McCullough is a waste of speed as far as I can tell.

Warner has been in the league 2 year's.

SmootSmack · 09-06-2004, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offiss

Warner has been in the league 2 year's.

Apparently you're both right. He's listed as having only 2 years experience but he was a late round draft pick by they Saints back in 1998 (6 years ago)

http://www.redskins.com/team/profile.jsp?id=341

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12798

Shane · 09-06-2004, 05:13 AM

"Honestly, I'm good enough to be on the roster," said McCullough, who lost out to Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright for the final running back spots and spoke to running backs coach Earnest Byner about the practice squad yesterday. "To me it's like a slap in the face [to go the practice squad], but I do want to be here, so hopefully everything will work out."

Sultan's comments are right on. However, I hope that for his sake he goes to a team that does a better job of evaluating his talent. He doesn't need any more "maturity." This is honesty. It is also a mistake of player evaluation. Enough said.

wolfeskins · 09-05-2004, 10:49 PM

correct me if i'm wrong but i think lott played cornerback in college,perhaps greg williams sees something we don't no about

JWsleep · 09-06-2004, 01:17 AM

Well, Williams seems to use CBs to blitz, mostly, so why not use Lott?

That Guy · 09-06-2004, 05:46 AM

I'm not so sure, I think I trust gibbs & co.'s judgement over a disgruntled 4th stringer...

warner may have 3 tackles in 5 games, but looks like he also has a SB ring to show for it lol.

MTK · 09-06-2004, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

I'm not so sure, I think I trust gibbs & co.'s judgement over a disgruntled 4th stringer...

I agree. Personally I find some of the comments regarding the cuts to be pretty ridiculous.

I trust Gibbs and his staff who have seen these players day in and day out, have watched numerous hours of film on them, and have a "tad" bit more in the qualifications department then we do.

I see some pretty strong words on this board regarding the cuts yesterday. The way I see it, unless you are employed by the Washington Redskins and you've been out there on the practice fields for the last two weeks all you really know about these players is based on what very little the coaches have revealed in the preseason.

Needless to say I'm going to trust Mr. Gibbs and the 3 Super Bowl rings he owns, and the 3 SB trophies he brought to this franchise.

I think some of us play a little too much Madden and think we are therefore somehow experts in talent evaluation.

jamf · 09-06-2004, 06:43 AM

i dont know what you Mccullough fans see in him.

sultan is a trung canidate clone. they both are looking for a job. they also hesitate in the backfield. i watched everyone of sultans runs this preseason and not once did he just hit a hole, everytime he got the ball, he danced in backfield.

i love fast players. but having a trackstar at RB is overrated.
for a running back to be a good player, they have to go throught he gap before it gets filled by a linemen or linbacker. sultan doesnt have the stones to run through the assigned gap and face a linebacker head up. he cant runover a LB or make them miss. he can only run by them.

the only way sultan will be a solid player is if he find a team that only runs sweeps.

09-05-2004, 09:15 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Matty what did Sultan say? I thought Rufus Brown might make it as well. I think one thing that Brown and Bauman had going against them was their size, or lack thereof. Especially now with these no contact rules being enforced undersized DBs are at a bit of a disadvantage wheras in the past they may have been able to do a little bumping and grabbing to stay with the receivers Upshaw is no world beater but Warner is very raw and I haven't seen much of Daniels yet so I would have thought Upshaw would have helped if for no other reason he's a veteran presence __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-06-2004, 01:17 AM	#12
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Well, Williams seems to use CBs to blitz, mostly, so why not use Lott? __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-05-2004, 08:45 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	True, Hogskin.

09-05-2004, 09:03 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	My thoughts on the cuts: -Mildly surprised about Upshaw. He's never lived up to his first round hype and I think this is more of the case of Williams going with the youth movement. Warner showed enough to justify this cut. -Only 4 corners? Something doesn't sound quite right here, I'm thinking the staff could have their eye on someone they knew was going to be cut today. -Bauman, who cares? He's an average DB who didn't really pan out. He's not a huge loss. I am surprised however that Jimoh made the team over him, but as I've said before on this board my name doesn't start with 'Coach' so what do I know? I am a bit surprised Rufus Brown didn't make it, he seemed to have a good shot at making the team after a solid preseason. -Not surprised about McCullough. I predicted a backfield of Portis, Betts, Cartwright and Morton. McCullough is still too raw, he's got the skills but from the sounds of his post-cut comments today he needs a bit more maturing. -Hamdan and Scott are PS material. Scott had a good preseason but he wasn't going to beat out Jacobs for the #5 spot. Hamdan's a good kid with skills but he's still very green. -Surprise of the day? By far it's OL Daryl Terrell. This guy has all-world potential, when is someone finally going to see this and give him the chance he deserves?? Screw the Ade Jimoh fanclub, Terrell is where it's at. I thought he had a hell of a camp and was dirtbag material.

09-05-2004, 09:17 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Sep5.html "Honestly, I'm good enough to be on the roster," said McCullough, who lost out to Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright for the final running back spots and spoke to running backs coach Earnest Byner about the practice squad yesterday. "To me it's like a slap in the face [to go the practice squad], but I do want to be here, so hopefully everything will work out."

09-05-2004, 10:02 PM	#5
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	When do they name the practice squad? I agree, Matty. I bet they have their eye on another corner somewhere else. It's not that I don't like our corners (yes, I even have a soft spot for Ade. He's going to turn it around!), but they are INJURY PRONE! We need some depth here. Can Lott really play NFL CB? __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-05-2004, 10:32 PM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Williams did mention in camp that he liked Lott's coverage skills, so perhaps that's his plan.

09-05-2004, 10:39 PM	#7
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 957	Warner is a major surprise, he has been in the league 6 years, played in 6 games and amassed a total of 5 tackles(3 solo), now he is considered more useful that Upshaw, amazing! McCullough is a waste of speed as far as I can tell.

09-06-2004, 05:13 AM	#10
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	"Honestly, I'm good enough to be on the roster," said McCullough, who lost out to Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright for the final running back spots and spoke to running backs coach Earnest Byner about the practice squad yesterday. "To me it's like a slap in the face [to go the practice squad], but I do want to be here, so hopefully everything will work out." Sultan's comments are right on. However, I hope that for his sake he goes to a team that does a better job of evaluating his talent. He doesn't need any more "maturity." This is honesty. It is also a mistake of player evaluation. Enough said.

09-05-2004, 10:49 PM	#11
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	correct me if i'm wrong but i think lott played cornerback in college,perhaps greg williams sees something we don't no about

09-06-2004, 05:46 AM	#13
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	I'm not so sure, I think I trust gibbs & co.'s judgement over a disgruntled 4th stringer... warner may have 3 tackles in 5 games, but looks like he also has a SB ring to show for it lol.

09-06-2004, 06:43 AM	#15
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,349	i dont know what you Mccullough fans see in him. sultan is a trung canidate clone. they both are looking for a job. they also hesitate in the backfield. i watched everyone of sultans runs this preseason and not once did he just hit a hole, everytime he got the ball, he danced in backfield. i love fast players. but having a trackstar at RB is overrated. for a running back to be a good player, they have to go throught he gap before it gets filled by a linemen or linbacker. sultan doesnt have the stones to run through the assigned gap and face a linebacker head up. he cant runover a LB or make them miss. he can only run by them. the only way sultan will be a solid player is if he find a team that only runs sweeps.

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