Springs and Taylor miss OTAs

diehardskin2982 · 05-09-2007, 10:40 AM

All of you are whackass haters if you have anything agianst Sean Taylor. If he wants more money, he deserves it!!! HE IS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM!!! He should atleast make more than Brunnell.

Sean was here before OTAs working out off and on. He had troubles his rookie season but he is NOT A THUG. At that time he was a KID and kid's get into trouble.

As for Springs, you can't blame him he doesn't know if he'll be here come June 1st so what the point of participating in OTAs.

Hog1 · 05-09-2007, 11:24 AM

CONTRACT
An agreement between two or more competent parties in which an offer is made and accepted, and each party benefits.

theJBexperience · 05-09-2007, 12:17 PM

My biggest concern from that article came from this paragraph:

"Before the voluntary workouts began, Campbell had wanted to work out with wide receivers Antwaan Randle El, Santana Moss and Brandon Lloyd, but the dates never materialized. Moss said he hoped to reschedule with Campbell during the six weeks between the mandatory June minicamp and the start of training camp July 27."

I'm glad Santana is going to reschedule with Jason, but it looks like Jason was willing to put in the extra effort to improve during the offseason, but his corp of receivers weren't. I remember hearing a report about Carson Palmer & Ocho Cinco, after Cinci went 8-8 and missed the playoffs, analyzed what Peyton Manning and his receivers did to get to where they were at, and it was simply putting in extra time to run routes individually with receivers to get their chemistry tight. So, Carson, Chad, and TJ did that as well in the offseason, and their air attack exploded the next season. I wish Jason could've done that with his receivers as well. Lord knows Brandon Lloyd needs to put in the extra tme running routes.

MTK · 05-09-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theJBexperience

My biggest concern from that article came from this paragraph:

"Before the voluntary workouts began, Campbell had wanted to work out with wide receivers Antwaan Randle El, Santana Moss and Brandon Lloyd, but the dates never materialized. Moss said he hoped to reschedule with Campbell during the six weeks between the mandatory June minicamp and the start of training camp July 27."

I'm glad Santana is going to reschedule with Jason, but it looks like Jason was willing to put in the extra effort to improve during the offseason, but his corp of receivers weren't. I remember hearing a report about Carson Palmer & Ocho Cinco, after Cinci went 8-8 and missed the playoffs, analyzed what Peyton Manning and his receivers did to get to where they were at, and it was simply putting in extra time to run routes individually with receivers to get their chemistry tight. So, Carson, Chad, and TJ did that as well in the offseason, and their air attack exploded the next season. I wish Jason could've done that with his receivers as well. Lord knows Brandon Lloyd needs to put in the extra tme running routes.

That would have been nice but at the same time it's not a huge deal.

It's the offseason... I don't think we realize sometimes that these guys have lives away from football and they need their down time too.

JoeRedskin · 05-09-2007, 12:26 PM

Fair enough, I think of all the OTA and off-season stuff, the timing and route running of the passing game probably benefit the most. More than any other aspect of the game, the passing game requires two particular players to understand each other. The off-season route running probably does allow the QB and receivers to talk more and get a feel for each other's nuances.

Even that, however, can't duplicate game speed or conditions.

At the same time, it will probably be more helpful to work on it after minicamp and before Training Camp as it lets them be that much more prepared prior to the opening of camp.

RobH4413 · 05-09-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Fair enough, I think of all the OTA and off-season stuff, the timing and route running of the passing game probably benefit the most. More than any other aspect of the game, the passing game requires two particular players to understand each other. The off-season route running probably does allow the QB and receivers to talk more and get a feel for each other's nuances.

Even that, however, can't duplicate game speed or conditions.

At the same time, it will probably be more helpful to work on it after minicamp and before Training Camp as it lets them be that much more prepared prior to the opening of camp.

A great deal of the running game and things like that are just the running backs instinct of where the holes are, and how to react to defenders.

As a receiver, the only instincts are basically how to get around getting bumped. After that, It's run your route crisp, recollect from film where you have to be, and know your QB.

I think you're right to assume QB/WR timing is the most important.

hesscl34 · 05-09-2007, 02:45 PM

maybe the guy ate a bad taco and couldn't make it? .. there could be any number of reason.. Oh, and Mods - it's really annoying that the server is alwasy busy these days!

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-09-2007, 02:52 PM

Hey now, we can't help it if we're always gettin' busy.

Hence the perils of browsing a site with such ballers.

JankySpanky80 · 05-09-2007, 09:27 PM

taylor needs a contract now never ever let him test the market .

Smurf85 · 05-09-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JankySpanky80

taylor needs a contract now never ever let him test the market .

I agree pay him now and make him happy.Landry will be making more money then him.

Pocket$ $traight · 05-09-2007, 11:52 PM

misapprehend - to fail to understand the true or actual meaning of

hooskins · 05-10-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

misapprehend - to fail to understand the true or actual meaning of

Grim you have valid points, but I am just surprised you started this thread. You are the one who is usually blasting people for overreacting.

And what about all those other people that skipped camp. Does it really even matter that much? I dont think teams around the league care that much about camps. I know Joe might, but overall how is this a big deal? GW still sweats STs nuts and we dont have another safety to play, they tried last year and that didnt work.

I just dont see the big deal with this issue...

MTK · 05-10-2007, 10:06 AM

I don't ever recall Taylor himself saying anything publicly about his contract.

JDALY27 · 05-10-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't ever recall Taylor himself saying anything publicly about his contract.

That's what agents are for. Taylor doesn't say much to the media about anything. Its a known issue that needs to be resolved. We can pretend that he's happy with his contract but you would be fooling yourself.

MTK · 05-10-2007, 10:10 AM

Given his track record of not attending voluntary workouts, I just think it's silly to jump the gun at this point and assume it's due to his contract. It very well could be, but unless you know Taylor personally I don't think we're in the positon to draw any hard conclusions.

If he starts skipping out once things are mandatory, that's a different story.

05-09-2007, 10:40 AM	#1
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs All of you are whackass haters if you have anything agianst Sean Taylor. If he wants more money, he deserves it!!! HE IS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM!!! He should atleast make more than Brunnell. Sean was here before OTAs working out off and on. He had troubles his rookie season but he is NOT A THUG. At that time he was a KID and kid's get into trouble. As for Springs, you can't blame him he doesn't know if he'll be here come June 1st so what the point of participating in OTAs. __________________ That got ugly fast

05-09-2007, 11:24 AM	#2
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs CONTRACT An agreement between two or more competent parties in which an offer is made and accepted, and each party benefits. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

05-09-2007, 12:17 PM	#3
theJBexperience Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Boone, NC Posts: 579	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs My biggest concern from that article came from this paragraph: "Before the voluntary workouts began, Campbell had wanted to work out with wide receivers Antwaan Randle El, Santana Moss and Brandon Lloyd, but the dates never materialized. Moss said he hoped to reschedule with Campbell during the six weeks between the mandatory June minicamp and the start of training camp July 27." I'm glad Santana is going to reschedule with Jason, but it looks like Jason was willing to put in the extra effort to improve during the offseason, but his corp of receivers weren't. I remember hearing a report about Carson Palmer & Ocho Cinco, after Cinci went 8-8 and missed the playoffs, analyzed what Peyton Manning and his receivers did to get to where they were at, and it was simply putting in extra time to run routes individually with receivers to get their chemistry tight. So, Carson, Chad, and TJ did that as well in the offseason, and their air attack exploded the next season. I wish Jason could've done that with his receivers as well. Lord knows Brandon Lloyd needs to put in the extra tme running routes.

05-09-2007, 12:26 PM	#5
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs Fair enough, I think of all the OTA and off-season stuff, the timing and route running of the passing game probably benefit the most. More than any other aspect of the game, the passing game requires two particular players to understand each other. The off-season route running probably does allow the QB and receivers to talk more and get a feel for each other's nuances. Even that, however, can't duplicate game speed or conditions. At the same time, it will probably be more helpful to work on it after minicamp and before Training Camp as it lets them be that much more prepared prior to the opening of camp. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

05-09-2007, 02:45 PM	#7
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs maybe the guy ate a bad taco and couldn't make it? .. there could be any number of reason.. Oh, and Mods - it's really annoying that the server is alwasy busy these days!

05-09-2007, 02:52 PM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs Hey now, we can't help it if we're always gettin' busy. Hence the perils of browsing a site with such ballers. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-09-2007, 09:27 PM	#9
JankySpanky80 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 267	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs taylor needs a contract now never ever let him test the market . __________________ JANK-e SPANK-e

05-09-2007, 11:52 PM	#11
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs misapprehend - to fail to understand the true or actual meaning of

05-10-2007, 10:06 AM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs I don't ever recall Taylor himself saying anything publicly about his contract. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-10-2007, 10:10 AM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Springs and Taylor miss OTAs Given his track record of not attending voluntary workouts, I just think it's silly to jump the gun at this point and assume it's due to his contract. It very well could be, but unless you know Taylor personally I don't think we're in the positon to draw any hard conclusions. If he starts skipping out once things are mandatory, that's a different story. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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